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Lottery bill failed #1826389
08/26/16 02:22 PM
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Like we all figured it would. It had too much crap attached to it to pass.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826400
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Heard the extra session cost the state $365K for these jackwagons to deny their constituents the right to vote on it one way or another. Asshat politicians get busy putting self serving language in it and it fails to make it to a ballot- Alabama Politics at it's best.


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And who is actully supprised..............


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826453
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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826459
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Here is a photo of the list of how the Senate voted. Regardless of pro or anti lottery positions we might have, this bill became a cluster@&!#. I personally don't support the lottery, but the least our elected leadership could do is present a clean language bill for the people to vote on. The incompetence is mind blowing, unless it was a sabotage.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826465
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What does P mean straycat?

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826467
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P=present but no vote


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826468
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Why would they not vote?

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826469
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Looks like my State Senator voted no after I asked him to support the lottery. Looks like my State Senator gets my no vote next time he runs.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: BamaFan64] #1826475
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Originally Posted By: BamaFan64
Looks like my State Senator voted no after I asked him to support the lottery. Looks like my State Senator gets my no vote next time he runs.


Which would be who?

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826482
08/26/16 03:47 PM
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What all was attached to it besides the lottery?


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826484
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I lobbied for many years. The democratic Senators did not get what they wanted in the bill from the House and the Repubs needed them in this case. Not enough split for education. Did not help the Bingo operators in this state where 18 countys have voted it legal. They want to play it with machines and not paper. Every body Greedy

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826486
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The whole damn lot of them should be drawn and quartered.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: crenshawco] #1826488
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Why would they not vote?


Two reasons come to mind:
1. Scared to take a stand
Or
2. They have a conflict of interest, such as owning a business that could be involved with the lottery in some way or some other type of conflict where abstaining is the proper course of action.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826511
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Brown envelopes.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826517
08/26/16 04:28 PM
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Yeah a big waste of time.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: straycat] #1826524
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Originally Posted By: straycat

Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Why would they not vote?


Two reasons come to mind:
1. Scared to take a stand
Or
2. They have a conflict of interest, such as owning a business that could be involved with the lottery in some way or some other type of conflict where abstaining is the proper course of action.


I'll bet #1 , I didn't think conflict of interest was possible in Alabama.



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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826546
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Originally Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Originally Posted By: BamaFan64
Looks like my State Senator voted no after I asked him to support the lottery. Looks like my State Senator gets my no vote next time he runs.


Which would be who?

Rusty Glover

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826551
08/26/16 05:00 PM
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Why dont we start an aldeer party? 3% of all ill-gotten gains go to the website.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826559
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Round ‘bout there
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Round ‘bout there

Three percent of ill-gotten gains in this state probably would allow the site owners to retire and buy hunting land.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826560
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I keep trying to tell ya'll but nobody will listen. We will have legalized marijuana before we have a lottery.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826561
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Round ‘bout there
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Round ‘bout there

Legal weed would be better for the state than a lottery.


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826569
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Legal weed would be horrible for the labor force.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826576
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Medical weed through doctors' prescriptions for things like pain relief from cancer most likely wouldn't affect the labor force. It's not like Timmy and Susie could saunter into a shop and buy weed for funsies unless the state opened sales to the general public. Given that they fought Sunday booze sales and craft/draft/tap beer for so long partly because of the evil brew, I doubt they'd just open weed sales to everyone.

Cultivation of medical-grade weed, packaging, running dispensaries ... approving medical weed probably would create more jobs than a lottery where ticket machines and scratchies are installed in stores already owned and managed by someone else. The biggest jobs likely to be created with a lottery would be with the supervisory commission board - high dollar, going to friends and buddies, and not much else.

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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826595
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This is the most hypocritical state there is. Just let the people vote.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: whack-n-stack] #1826596
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Originally Posted By: whack-n-stack
Legal weed would be horrible for the labor force.


HAHA! Why do you think we keep letting in the Mexicans?


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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: Clem] #1826598
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Medical weed through doctors' prescriptions for things like pain relief from cancer most likely wouldn't affect the labor force. It's not like Timmy and Susie could saunter into a shop and buy weed for funsies unless the state opened sales to the general public. Given that they fought Sunday booze sales and craft/draft/tap beer for so long partly because of the evil brew, I doubt they'd just open weed sales to everyone.

Cultivation of medical-grade weed, packaging, running dispensaries ... approving medical weed probably would create more jobs than a lottery where ticket machines and scratchies are installed in stores already owned and managed by someone else. The biggest jobs likely to be created with a lottery would be with the supervisory commission board - high dollar, going to friends and buddies, and not much else.


yes it is a good pain reliever. lets take it a step further. say said cancer pt has no ins. and is prescribed this "medicine" if they are on medicaid will the state be willing to pay for this "medicine"? if so said "medicine" will break the state for the simple fact they got to pay for it. if the state aint got money to pay for it then growers aint getting paid and the "medicine" will stop being offered

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: Clem] #1826616
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Originally Posted By: Clem

Legal weed would be better for the state than a lottery.


That would make my low carb diet a lot easier. Well, maybe.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826634
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Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826639
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These guys want to try to put, "Do it for the kids"! as a way to get the money they need. Do it for the kids and make the documents of which how all allocations are being made. We need a break-down of who get's what and a quarterly report with names and place money went. This needs to be part of bill and then let us vote on it. Just 10% to school is not right. Exclude state teacher pension fund from lottery contributions too many people can't keep out of that. Teachers pension fund will never have guaranteed growth as long as it is tied to 401-k and stocks. That money would be better put in a savings account where we don't have to cover loss years. Do away with pension fund and increase salaries for teachers. Only seven states don't have lottery Mississippi and Alabama are two of those. All these people traveling are spending our money elsewhere. Wages for teachers, new schools, and college scholarships are being provided to those kids out of state that could better be used for our kids. If taxpayers don't spend their money on lottery they going to spend it on something just as bad if they want too.

Re: Lottery bill failed [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1826652
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I find it hilarious that most of you don't trust the dcnr to manage gamecheck, but want them to implement a lottery. How short sighted do you have to be, to believe the state will manage a big increase in revenue well????

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I find it hilarious that most of you don't trust the dcnr to manage gamecheck, but want them to implement a lottery. How short sighted do you have to be, to believe the state will manage a big increase in revenue well????


Ding, Ding, Ding!!!! We have a winner. A lot of us are old enough to remember the same crap spewing out of the mouths of the scum that ran this state years ago as it pertained to legal liquor sales. It was the magic bean then that was going to save our state and our education system. "If they don't buy it here, they'll buy it somewhere else." I'm all for letting the people vote, but if you think it's the long term fix for this state, history is not on your side. All it does is kick the proverbial can down the road. Einstein's definition of insanity was to do the same thing over and over and expect different results. Expecting this to solve our funding woes in insane. The only thing that has changed is the names and faces of the scum.

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Originally Posted By: 300Ruger
Originally Posted By: Clem

Legal weed would be better for the state than a lottery.


That would make my low carb diet a lot easier. Well, maybe.


When did Nacho Doritos become low carb?


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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I find it hilarious that most of you don't trust the dcnr to manage gamecheck, but want them to implement a lottery. How short sighted do you have to be, to believe the state will manage a big increase in revenue well????


Hammer meet nail... if they can't manage the funds they have now, they'll mismanage any new funds they receive in the future. The problem has already been stated earlier in the thread... it's greed among those who run our state.

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This is what medicinal marijuana is suppose to be for. I think the little boy was having over 20 seizures per hour.

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