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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: YEKRUT]
#180206
09/09/11 06:39 AM
09/09/11 06:39 AM
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Posts: 6,622 Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
it froze over
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it froze over
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Sounds like it was a good shot to me then. Yeah rip, don't you know that when your an "EXPERT" you can make those shots! I'm sure he knew that deer was gonna move the way it did. It's all in strategy! Lol
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Rip50]
#180213
09/09/11 06:53 AM
09/09/11 06:53 AM
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Posts: 6,449 Lucedale,MS
BUCKMAN26
12 point
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12 point
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they some lucky bastards, if he would have missed or never recovered it you would have never seen the footage
Roll Tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all...
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Rip50]
#180257
09/09/11 08:41 AM
09/09/11 08:41 AM
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BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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bad shots are just that..bad shots. Sometimes ya get lucky and kill the deer on one, but I bet if thats his norm we don't see a lot of his shots/losses.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: BhamFred]
#180291
09/09/11 09:45 AM
09/09/11 09:45 AM
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Posts: 487 Anniston, AL
danangel
4 point
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4 point
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I saw the same show. If he practices a 50 yard shot regularly and felt comfortable with taking it good on him. He recovered the deer. The risk to him was worth the reward. It was alert but at 300 fps didn't mean much. 150 feet away would take a fraction of a second to get to the mark. Just saying I've seen bad shots on tv and that wasn't one of them.
Other things being equal, it is the man who shoots with his heart in his bow that hits the mark.
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: danangel]
#180329
09/09/11 11:11 AM
09/09/11 11:11 AM
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Fun4all
10 point
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I saw the same show. If he practices a 50 yard shot regularly and felt comfortable with taking it good on him. He recovered the deer. The risk to him was worth the reward. It was alert but at 300 fps didn't mean much. 150 feet away would take a fraction of a second to get to the mark. Just saying I've seen bad shots on tv and that wasn't one of them. Run the math and see how far a deer that is walking at 3 miles per hour can travel during the arrow flight at 50 yards, much less on one that is already hyped up and comes unglued. 3,000 fps in one thing 300 fps is slow motion.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Fun4all]
#180338
09/09/11 11:39 AM
09/09/11 11:39 AM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 10,979 Somerville
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Booner
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I saw the same show. If he practices a 50 yard shot regularly and felt comfortable with taking it good on him. He recovered the deer. The risk to him was worth the reward. It was alert but at 300 fps didn't mean much. 150 feet away would take a fraction of a second to get to the mark. Just saying I've seen bad shots on tv and that wasn't one of them. Run the math and see how far a deer that is walking at 3 miles per hour can travel during the arrow flight at 50 yards, much less on one that is already hyped up and comes unglued. 3,000 fps in one thing 300 fps is slow motion.
"Don't let a dead deer kill ya"
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: danangel]
#180461
09/09/11 03:45 PM
09/09/11 03:45 PM
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Posts: 529 Rainbow City,Al
Rip50
OP
4 point
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OP
4 point
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I saw the same show. If he practices a 50 yard shot regularly and felt comfortable with taking it good on him. He recovered the deer. The risk to him was worth the reward. It was alert but at 300 fps didn't mean much. 150 feet away would take a fraction of a second to get to the mark. Just saying I've seen bad shots on tv and that wasn't one of them. The deer was Broad side faceing too the left.When he shot The deer turn and the arrow hit it stright on in the brisket.Like the deer was walking to him. Sorry for the rant but in my eyes it was a bad shot.Even though he recovered it.No matter how much you pratice a 50 yard shot .You cant make that deer stand still like a pratice target.
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Rip50]
#180480
09/09/11 04:28 PM
09/09/11 04:28 PM
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Posts: 487 Anniston, AL
danangel
4 point
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4 point
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I'm hearin' ya friend however I still disagree. Would I take a 50 yard shot at a relaxed deer at 50 yards?..probably not. Plenty of more capable hunters than me out there shooting any day. If the deer would have had his head down and in a relaxed stance and at 50 yards would that have made any difference in whether to shoot it or not? IMO its up to the hunter to determine if he's capable of the shot or not. Secondly, I've seen plenty of worse shot selections, extreme quartering towards shots, head on shots. STRAIGHT DOWN SHOTS.....very deadly shot when its accurate just like any shot could be at 50 yards but a STRAIGHT DOWN shot presents a very small vital area and LARGE room for mistake. Thats my .02 cents.
Other things being equal, it is the man who shoots with his heart in his bow that hits the mark.
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: danangel]
#180715
09/10/11 08:44 AM
09/10/11 08:44 AM
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Posts: 5,577 Tuscaloosa, AL
Bowfool
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IMO its up to the hunter to determine if he's capable of the shot or not. When it is me, God and the deer, I agree. When it’s someone on the boob tube that is representing the heritage and us the hunters and can't control what impression his actions may have on hunting and non-hunting viewer, I feel discretion and discipline should be mandatory. The majority of these shows just want a kill on tape, no matter what the cost.
‘Obama Is the Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated on the American People’ - Clint Eastwood
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Southwood7]
#180738
09/10/11 10:22 AM
09/10/11 10:22 AM
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Posts: 16,984 Madison
BowtechDan
Old Mossy Horns
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Close is subjective. Ethics is subjective.
Deer can react at 20 yards or 50. Bows are pretty quiet 50 yards away. Just sayin.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: BowtechDan]
#181023
09/10/11 04:37 PM
09/10/11 04:37 PM
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Posts: 3,494 Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
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10 point
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Close is subjective. Ethics is subjective.
Deer can react at 20 yards or 50. Bows are pretty quiet 50 yards away. Just sayin. 50 yards away a bullet traveling 3,000 fps gets to the deer before the sound traveling at 1,100 fps, so sound is not an issue with the right tool at the right distance. An arrow at 300 fps traveling 50 yards losing speed the entire time allows the animal to move a substantial amount (enough to change a sure kill into a miss or gut shot) sound or no sound.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Fun4all]
#181291
09/11/11 07:46 AM
09/11/11 07:46 AM
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Posts: 16,984 Madison
BowtechDan
Old Mossy Horns
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I think you mentioned something about that all ready.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Another Bad bow shot!
[Re: Rip50]
#181375
09/11/11 10:51 AM
09/11/11 10:51 AM
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Posts: 36,242 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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50 yards is too far to be routinely launching arras at deer. And I don't care how "great" a shot you are on a stationary foam target. Deer don't behave like foam targets and just stand there.
A 50 yard shot on an alert deer at a less than good angle??? Gimme a break, only an idiot or TV "personality" would take that shot op.
blow
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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