Why doesn't Nosler offer these bullets in the 120 grain 7mm?

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I've already done that. I haven't heard anything from them, yet. Just wondered if y'all knew.

In all seriousness, all I have ever known Nosler to make for 7mm was 140 and 160. In my personal opinion, light for caliber bullets are seemingly making a resurgence now due to several factors. The advent of monolithic copper bullets essentially mandates either A)Reduce overall weight of the bullet because a 140gr monolithic buller is going to be longer than a 140gr cup and core, and most rifle's twist rates will not stabilize them or B)have a custom barrel with a twist that will support long bullets at the velocity of the cartridge. Probably going to sell more bullets going with A.

Another is I think hunters are tending to go against the previous fad of "what uber magnum can I use to kill deer" to, hey let's make a micro rifle I can tote all day and has zero recoil - light for caliber bullets.

Lastly, the idea of light for caliber bullets for use in reduced recoil rounds isn't a new concept, but has seemingly made a surge in recent years. People are using them to get their kids hunting earlier then ever, in my opinion a good thing.

I think nosler just hasn't come around to it yet. Just my thoughts.

That's what I was thinking. Seemingly, more and more folks are talking about the 7-08. I know the 120 grain NBT has got a good following. I just thought that the 120 grain PT and/or AB would be great for the folks that may not want to shoot a ballistic tip.

Ballistic Coefficient sucks

How much of a problem is that within 300 yards?

140s work better.

At reduced velocities, no real advantage to a bonded or premium bullet in my opinion. Now if we're talking full house 7'08s with a 120, a premium would be justified.

Zero. I had a recent conversation with a guy that was talking about bc and how this bullets bc is so much better than this ones. I asked how far he normally shoots to which he replied, "less than 200 yards". IMO, bc has no effect on 99% of us.

There is not a significant enough gain in speed and less energy. Probably 200 fps if memory serves correctly. And then the ballistic coefficient is lower. So that doesn't really leave any marginal advantage.

So all things equal it doesn't make a lot of sense to shoot 120s unless you are trying to manage recoil, etc.

That's the logic. I don't care what you shoot. Smoke'em if you got'em.

I've seen folks give alot of love to the 120 grain NBT, even in 280 AI and 7 mags. I was just curious why no 120 grain Partitions or Accubonds.

Nosler said that they didn't offer them, due to lack of demand. I bet folks would buy them, though. But, it's their business and they have to follow their business plan.

Just try a Barnes TSX 120 grain. I have shot them in 7x57 and were good accurate bullets.

I use the Nosler factory loads in my 7mm-08 120 grain ballistic tip is deadly on deer and hogs but I know that wasn't your question

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I had a BIL and his friend in my club years ago that shot 7mmRMs with Sierra 162? gr Matchking bullets. damn bullets zipped thru a deer with NO expansion and they lost half a dozen bucks with em...then wanted to argue that the Sierras had a super BC so they were a better long range bullet. Neither of these folks was any kind of a good shot at even modest ranges. Neither was in the club the next year either....

Use a prohunter, ballistic tip or tsx.

BhamFred - but that's just not knowing what you are doing. Obviously those guys in your club... they need to get on here and ask some questions. I would not expect a 162 gr. Matchking to expand. I can tell you that and I don't even have to shoot a deer with them to find out.


For everyone here would be my question and you can answer it for yoursefl and ask yourself again why Nosler doesn't offer a 120 gr Partition.

If you aren't trying to get speed and distance and only shooting less than 200 yards... thus no reason to worry about ballistic coefficient...

Unless you are trying to reduce recoil shooting varmints or for a kid, why shoot a 7mm 120gr? What advantage does it have in that scenario over a 139/140 gr? What advantage does the heavier bullet have on big game?

generally, the heavier bullet in the same design , due to construction AND weight, will out penetrate a lighter bullet. All of Noslers bullets lean towards mid to heavy weight for calibre in Partitions.

Nosler played with making a 135gr 30cal Partition many years ago but never made a production run. I thought it would make a good deer bullet. I always use the lightest weight Partition I can get for any cartridge I shoot. 125gr/264, 140gr/7mmRM, 130gr/270Win

but I do load the heavier 300gr Partition in my 375H&H

Nosler does make a 120 gr ballistic tip which actually has a heavier jacket than the 140 gr. 7mm bullet. Its made heavier for use in steel silhouette competitions. Never used one but have read good reports of people using them in a 7-08. Hope this helps.

I've tried the 120NBT and it was ok. The 140 accubond was excellent. But I ended up going with the 140 tsx.
I do happen to have a few 30 cal 125gr Accubonds that I can't wait to try in my 06