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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797265
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I don't care to start running cameras until the bucks have grown most of their antlers. I start them in September. I check them every 3-5 days during that time. I'll get most of the bucks that we kill during that time. During the rut, there may be a different buck or two show up. During hunting season, I'll check them about every other day or at the most every 3rd day and during daylight only. I need to know as soon as a deer enters the area, cause I've found that I have a 3-5 day window to kill him before it starts all over again. I haven't seen any adverse impact on checking them in this manner, either. YMMV, but this is the system that I've developed and it's been working for me for years.

I move my cameras around, until I find the buck I want moving in the daylight regularly.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797274
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You can get away with checking cameras on those sub 1500' row crop deer regularly but those bucks up near 2000' that are shedding velvet now boy you better not disturb them much. laugh


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: jbc] #1797275
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
Originally Posted By: Atoler
As far as trying to pattern mature deer in bama. I think most people do more harm than good in alavama, unless you have a unique piece of property



If anyone has a proven strategy for photographing and pursuing the same deer, I'd like to hear from that guy.


(in my opinion) it is 100% dependent on your land layout. If its a bunch of pines and cutover, its going to be tough. If you have heads of woods that are travel corridors through ag fields, it is easier to run cameras.


I agree. We'll file this away as "obvious". I knew a 15 year old kid that killed P&Y qualifying bucks each year because he happened to have permission to hunt a 20 acre strip of woods between very large ag fields. This would be considered a "gold mine", not a typical hunting scenario. If you're fortunate to have such access, you will see result outside the norm.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797328
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Salt licks before season (checked very little, a month +) just to see whats around. And you will see alot bucks when established.
During season very easily accessible places (maybe checked more frequently) or like someone else said where u will be hunting ( checked much less).


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797347
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
2dogs has given an actual answer with regards to the original question. Props to you, sir. 2 cameras facing opposite directions is a concept I never considered. I still don't like the concept of placing them and collecting them so close to "prime time".


Prime time is when you want to be in the woods the most. I normally take 3 weeks vacation and hunt most every day. I wanta know where they are when I'm there. I don't wanta be running all over the place stinking it up checking cams during rut, it's time to kill! Does me no good to have a monster patterned and standing under my tree if I'm not there.

Why don't you like my idea of letting them run 3 weeks then pulling them at "prime time" ?

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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: 2Dogs] #1797392
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Here's what I do. Our rut /breeding is the first few days of Jan. I put my cams out about the first or second week of December with large SD cards and hot batteries. I put 2 on the same tree facing 180 degrees from each other. I let them run for 2-3 weeks, I don't check them, I pull them . The next trip in after putting them up is to take them down. Then I form a plan from there. Running cams all season and checking them every few days is not a strategy I like and one I will not employ.

If I getting one on cam coming in every morning for several days straight and I kill him the first morning hunted by 7 AM is patterning , then it can be done.


You put your cams on hot trails or scrapes?

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: 2Dogs] #1797409
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
2dogs has given an actual answer with regards to the original question. Props to you, sir. 2 cameras facing opposite directions is a concept I never considered. I still don't like the concept of placing them and collecting them so close to "prime time".


Prime time is when you want to be in the woods the most. I normally take 3 weeks vacation and hunt most every day. I wanta know where they are when I'm there. I don't wanta be running all over the place stinking it up checking cams during rut, it's time to kill! Does me no good to have a monster patterned and standing under my tree if I'm not there.

Why don't you like my idea of letting them run 3 weeks then pulling them at "prime time" ?


That strategy makes perfectly logical sense in the fact that you are looking for current info that will be applicable to when you plan to hunt. I get it. I just never considered using them leading up to the rut. I've always tried to let my best stand locations rest leading up to the rut. It sounds like you might have better results than I have. I may need to give it a try.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797447
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
2dogs has given an actual answer with regards to the original question. Props to you, sir. 2 cameras facing opposite directions is a concept I never considered. I still don't like the concept of placing them and collecting them so close to "prime time".


Prime time is when you want to be in the woods the most. I normally take 3 weeks vacation and hunt most every day. I wanta know where they are when I'm there. I don't wanta be running all over the place stinking it up checking cams during rut, it's time to kill! Does me no good to have a monster patterned and standing under my tree if I'm not there.

Why don't you like my idea of letting them run 3 weeks then pulling them at "prime time" ?


That strategy makes perfectly logical sense in the fact that you are looking for current info that will be applicable to when you plan to hunt. I get it. I just never considered using them leading up to the rut. I've always tried to let my best stand locations rest leading up to the rut. It sounds like you might have better results than I have. I may need to give it a try.



Just kill your big deer during bow season. That way you won't have to worry with the rut. laugh


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: bamamed1] #1797485
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Originally Posted By: bamamed1

Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Here's what I do. Our rut /breeding is the first few days of Jan. I put my cams out about the first or second week of December with large SD cards and hot batteries. I put 2 on the same tree facing 180 degrees from each other. I let them run for 2-3 weeks, I don't check them, I pull them . The next trip in after putting them up is to take them down. Then I form a plan from there. Running cams all season and checking them every few days is not a strategy I like and one I will not employ.

If I getting one on cam coming in every morning for several days straight and I kill him the first morning hunted by 7 AM is patterning , then it can be done.


You put your cams on hot trails or scrapes?


Both, scrapes only if they are hot . Rarely a single trail but crossings or where several come together like a hub. I really like a hub that has a hot primary scrape or two nearby. Doesn't get better than that.



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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797487
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After running 8+ cameras on the same property for close to 10 years, you can definitely recognize patterns about certain areas bucks visit throughout the year. During the summer,our cams will be out unchecked and undisturbed for many months at a time. During the season though, we'll generally go up for a week,then take 2 or 3 weeks back home and check them every time we go up. On some of them,I just wait to hunt the closest stand,then check them after the hunt so I'm not disturbing the area just to check a cam. After looking at many years worth of pics from the same property,you can clearly see patterns that have without a doubt assisted in me in harvesting a bona-fide mature deer; it's an awesome feeling when you get a deer that you've looked at hundreds of pics of over the last 3/4 years.

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797490
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
2dogs has given an actual answer with regards to the original question. Props to you, sir. 2 cameras facing opposite directions is a concept I never considered. I still don't like the concept of placing them and collecting them so close to "prime time".


Prime time is when you want to be in the woods the most. I normally take 3 weeks vacation and hunt most every day. I wanta know where they are when I'm there. I don't wanta be running all over the place stinking it up checking cams during rut, it's time to kill! Does me no good to have a monster patterned and standing under my tree if I'm not there.

Why don't you like my idea of letting them run 3 weeks then pulling them at "prime time" ?


That strategy makes perfectly logical sense in the fact that you are looking for current info that will be applicable to when you plan to hunt. I get it. I just never considered using them leading up to the rut. I've always tried to let my best stand locations rest leading up to the rut. It sounds like you might have better results than I have. I may need to give it a try.


I am letting them rest, I hang the cams well in advance of prime time then slip in for a hunt or just to pull them. Then see what I have and formulate a plan. I 've only started running cams in season bout 3 years ago. Wasn't a fan of them in season. I want to use them as low impact as possible .



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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797512
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I've been running cameras for around 15 years. Went from just getting excited to see a buck on camera to realizing the potential our property. Over the past 10 years it's been more about seeing what up and comers look like and then getting a good idea of the number of shooters we have spending time on our land. This is good to know if you have friends hunting with you as it minimizes mistakes on shooting bucks that we don't want to shoot yet.

All that being said, over the past 3-4 years it's become clear that putting any kind of pressure on a mature buck can make that buck nearly impossible to kill. I think a lot of hunters underestimate how weary mature bucks can be. So, last summer I put out a camera and never checked it until bow season. After that I didn't check it until the rut. A buddy of mine hunted the field for the first time around late December and had 3 really good hunts. Saw a shooter, next day missed a shooter, next morning saw another shooter. I don't think it was coincidence that the year before I was checking the cam on that same field every 2-3 weeks and had minimal mature buck sightings.

From now on, I'll use them in a similar way that 2 dogs does, except I'll also start running them around late August, but will not check until bow season. "IF" you are going to pattern a mature buck on our place it's going to be during the first 2-3 hunts of bow season.

As others have said, it really does depend on each individual buck's personality. Every now and then we get a mature buck that just doesn't seem to be as concerned with dying as his cohorts and for those bucks you really can check the cam every week or so without an issue, but I believe those type bucks are very few and far between.

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: truedouble] #1797645
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
I've been running cameras for around 15 years. Went from just getting excited to see a buck on camera to realizing the potential our property. Over the past 10 years it's been more about seeing what up and comers look like and then getting a good idea of the number of shooters we have spending time on our land. This is good to know if you have friends hunting with you as it minimizes mistakes on shooting bucks that we don't want to shoot yet.

All that being said, over the past 3-4 years it's become clear that putting any kind of pressure on a mature buck can make that buck nearly impossible to kill. I think a lot of hunters underestimate how weary mature bucks can be. So, last summer I put out a camera and never checked it until bow season. After that I didn't check it until the rut. A buddy of mine hunted the field for the first time around late December and had 3 really good hunts. Saw a shooter, next day missed a shooter, next morning saw another shooter. I don't think it was coincidence that the year before I was checking the cam on that same field every 2-3 weeks and had minimal mature buck sightings.

From now on, I'll use them in a similar way that 2 dogs does, except I'll also start running them around late August, but will not check until bow season. "IF" you are going to pattern a mature buck on our place it's going to be during the first 2-3 hunts of bow season.

As others have said, it really does depend on each individual buck's personality. Every now and then we get a mature buck that just doesn't seem to be as concerned with dying as his cohorts and for those bucks you really can check the cam every week or so without an issue, but I believe those type bucks are very few and far between.


thumbup Spot on, if you want to kill 4+ YO bucks you have to turn it up a notch. They are like grumpy old men, they don't like to be bothered . Over hunting a stand , not hunting a stand smart, ripping and roaring on a atv/utv and checking cameras every few days will piss a grumpy old buck off.



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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1797713
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I like the cameras the way 2dogs described, run them early and dont worry about them. Got a guy at my lease, that has cameras all over the damn place and checks them every week. I told him. We know we got good bucks, why disturb and pressure them just to get a pic. Pics are cool, but taking a pic with the buck is even cooler. Especially when the rutting starts, bucks are all over.


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If get a pic of a really good one in pre-season; I am outta there till first day of bow season when wind is right for that stand

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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: N2TRKYS] #1797792
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I don't care to start running cameras until the bucks have grown most of their antlers. I start them in September. I check them every 3-5 days during that time. I'll get most of the bucks that we kill during that time. During the rut, there may be a different buck or two show up. During hunting season, I'll check them about every other day or at the most every 3rd day and during daylight only. I need to know as soon as a deer enters the area, cause I've found that I have a 3-5 day window to kill him before it starts all over again. I haven't seen any adverse impact on checking them in this manner, either. YMMV, but this is the system that I've developed and it's been working for me for years.

I move my cameras around, until I find the buck I want moving in the daylight regularly.



^^^ This!!! There is a 3-5 day window most mature bucks give you in a season to harvest them from my experience. Checking that camera as much as possible makes you aware of this period. Although they humble us more than not they are still an animal and make dumb decisions. Im in a club that checks cameras everyday that is 2000 acres and also one that is 3800 acres that is the most scent awareness group around so we run cellular cams that we don't have to check and the kill rate of bucks over 135 inches are the same, but in the scent caution delegates defense I would say the 3800 acre property has a little more deer sightings per hunt and the properties are practically within rock throwing distance of each other. I can tell you that the cameras on both properties are the direct reason of all our mature bucks being harvested besides one and there was never a picture of the exception deer that year or in years past.

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We have killed 5 or 6 mature bucks the past 3 years that we have had on camera. From Sept-Dec we place cameras on food sources like feeders and greenfields. From December til the end of season, we place cameras on scrapes and trails. My strategy is to spread out cameras the first few months to take inventory, then concentrate my cameras on the spots where i picked up the most mature bucks on camera. Most of the bucks appear on numerous cameras once I move the cameras to a smaller area. Then I can pay attention to what time they appear in what spots. I rarely hunt over the cameras or the spots where the cameras were, but instead hunt nearby food sources or trails from bedding areas depending on what I think the buck is doing. Almost all of the bucks I have killed doing this have been within 300 yards or so of one of my cameras. I pull cards everytime I pass a camera while hunting or after about 2 weeks if I havent passed the camera.

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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
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I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me.


That's a good use of cams as well, carry them hunting and check or pull the cam while hunting that spot. I just don't like to make unnecessary trips and stink the place up.


Ditto for me.


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2dogs, I understand you put to cameras out at a hub or corridor . Do you hunt in that tree or a tree near it?

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2dogs, I understand you put to cameras out at a hub or corridor . Do you hunt in that tree or a tree near it?


Almost always at least within sight of where the cam was/is.



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