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Successful camera strategy
#1797125
07/26/16 03:55 PM
07/26/16 03:55 PM
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Yelp softly
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Disclaimer: I don't put out cameras. I know lots of information can be revealed with them but I started using cameras back when they actually used film that you had to get developed. It took me about 3 seasons to realize that I never saw any of the bucks that I had on film, so I quit.
Therefore, my question is: how many of you guys have proven camera strategies? I'm interested to hear from the guys that have killed more than 1 or 2 mature deer that they had on camera. When do you put them out and pull them? My hypothesis is that the longer an area rests with no human presence, the higher likelihood of seeing mature deer in daylight. Does the area need a month of rest? Two months? Longer?
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797144
07/26/16 04:03 PM
07/26/16 04:03 PM
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jbc
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Disclaimer: I don't put out cameras. I know lots of information can be revealed with them but I started using cameras back when they actually used film that you had to get developed. It took me about 3 seasons to realize that I never saw any of the bucks that I had on film, so I quit.
Therefore, my question is: how many of you guys have proven camera strategies? I'm interested to hear from the guys that have killed more than 1 or 2 mature deer that they had on camera. When do you put them out and pull them? My hypothesis is that the longer an area rests with no human presence, the higher likelihood of seeing mature deer in daylight. Does the area need a month of rest? Two months? Longer? cameras all year, check monthly this time of year, usually just on mineral licks. Closer to season/during season, they're on trails, we replenish food and pull cards every 3 days or so, middle of the night when we know they are away from there. Fairly easy to pattern after that. for a while you get them coming to the food just before light and just after dark, keep checking the cameras until you feel good about their pattern changing to being after light or before dark, wait on the right wind, get in stand on trail, and wait. I enjoy the cameras and the pics almost as much as the hunting almost
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
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07/26/16 04:06 PM
07/26/16 04:06 PM
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Yelp softly
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You pull cards every 3 days and you've been able to kill multiple mature bucks you had on camera? I'm calling BS.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797153
07/26/16 04:10 PM
07/26/16 04:10 PM
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Remington270
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You pull cards every 3 days and you've been able to kill multiple mature bucks you had on camera? I'm calling BS. I believe it. He hunts in one of the best areas of the state. You do realize that alone increases his chances by 10x, at least.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797154
07/26/16 04:11 PM
07/26/16 04:11 PM
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Yelp softly
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Maybe I should clarify. If you have pictures of a deer and he was later killed 3/4 of a mile away, then the camera didn't help you kill that deer. It was coincidence. I am wanting to hear from the guys that use cameras to pattern and kill mature bucks. Is it possible?
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797155
07/26/16 04:13 PM
07/26/16 04:13 PM
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2Dogs
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Here's what I do. Our rut /breeding is the first few days of Jan. I put my cams out about the first or second week of December with large SD cards and hot batteries. I put 2 on the same tree facing 180 degrees from each other. I let them run for 2-3 weeks, I don't check them, I pull them . The next trip in after putting them up is to take them down. Then I form a plan from there. Running cams all season and checking them every few days is not a strategy I like and one I will not employ.
If I getting one on cam coming in every morning for several days straight and I kill him the first morning hunted by 7 AM is patterning , then it can be done.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 07/26/16 04:17 PM.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797156
07/26/16 04:15 PM
07/26/16 04:15 PM
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jbc
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You pull cards every 3 days and you've been able to kill multiple mature bucks you had on camera? I'm calling BS. that's when the corn and rice bran turn to dirt. I believe its all about when you go in and out, and how careful you are doing it. but I don't know as much about it as most people on here, would never claim to. I'm just sharing what we have done in the past its a unique layout, wouldn't work most places. the other spot I hunt I have to be much more conservative
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: jbc]
#1797159
07/26/16 04:21 PM
07/26/16 04:21 PM
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2Dogs
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Disclaimer: I don't put out cameras. I know lots of information can be revealed with them but I started using cameras back when they actually used film that you had to get developed. It took me about 3 seasons to realize that I never saw any of the bucks that I had on film, so I quit.
Therefore, my question is: how many of you guys have proven camera strategies? I'm interested to hear from the guys that have killed more than 1 or 2 mature deer that they had on camera. When do you put them out and pull them? My hypothesis is that the longer an area rests with no human presence, the higher likelihood of seeing mature deer in daylight. Does the area need a month of rest? Two months? Longer? cameras all year, check monthly this time of year, usually just on mineral licks. Closer to season/during season, they're on trails, we replenish food and pull cards every 3 days or so, middle of the night when we know they are away from there. Fairly easy to pattern after that. for a while you get them coming to the food just before light and just after dark, keep checking the cameras until you feel good about their pattern changing to being after light or before dark, wait on the right wind, get in stand on trail, and wait. I enjoy the cameras and the pics almost as much as the hunting almost If it works for you great, but I will not go in every 3 days , or should I say mid- nights and pull cards. Just how do you know they aren't in the area at mid night?
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: 2Dogs]
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07/26/16 04:26 PM
07/26/16 04:26 PM
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jbc
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Disclaimer: I don't put out cameras. I know lots of information can be revealed with them but I started using cameras back when they actually used film that you had to get developed. It took me about 3 seasons to realize that I never saw any of the bucks that I had on film, so I quit.
Therefore, my question is: how many of you guys have proven camera strategies? I'm interested to hear from the guys that have killed more than 1 or 2 mature deer that they had on camera. When do you put them out and pull them? My hypothesis is that the longer an area rests with no human presence, the higher likelihood of seeing mature deer in daylight. Does the area need a month of rest? Two months? Longer? cameras all year, check monthly this time of year, usually just on mineral licks. Closer to season/during season, they're on trails, we replenish food and pull cards every 3 days or so, middle of the night when we know they are away from there. Fairly easy to pattern after that. for a while you get them coming to the food just before light and just after dark, keep checking the cameras until you feel good about their pattern changing to being after light or before dark, wait on the right wind, get in stand on trail, and wait. I enjoy the cameras and the pics almost as much as the hunting almost If it works for you great, but I will not go in every 3 days , or should I say mid- nights and pull cards. Just how do you know they aren't in the area at mid night? seeing them going north at dark and back south at day break, passing food both ways for multiple days in a row. never know for sure where they are. like I said, just patterning. also like I said, unique situation
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
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07/26/16 04:28 PM
07/26/16 04:28 PM
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Maybe I should clarify. If you have pictures of a deer and he was later killed 3/4 of a mile away, then the camera didn't help you kill that deer. It was coincidence. I am wanting to hear from the guys that use cameras to pattern and kill mature bucks. Is it possible? It is possible from my experience but it has more to do with the individual bucks personality than the hunter's camera strategy in my opinion.....We have killed a few 5 1/2 plus year old bucks using cameras but many more have eluded us than we have gotten. The ones that got killed all seemed to follow the same day time patterns at the same time in the same area each year. Once we found that pattern they were usually killed within a hundred yards of the cameras.......as far as frequency in checking cameras I leave some out for weeks without checking them.
Last edited by bigt; 07/26/16 04:30 PM.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: bigt]
#1797191
07/26/16 04:33 PM
07/26/16 04:33 PM
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2Dogs
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Maybe I should clarify. If you have pictures of a deer and he was later killed 3/4 of a mile away, then the camera didn't help you kill that deer. It was coincidence. I am wanting to hear from the guys that use cameras to pattern and kill mature bucks. Is it possible? It is possible from my experience but it has more to do with the individual bucks personality than the hunter's camera strategy in my opinion.....We have killed a few 5 1/2 plus year old bucks using cameras but many more have eluded us than we have gotten. The ones that got killed all seemed to follow the same day time patterns at the same time in the same area each year. Once we found that pattern they were usually killed within a hundred yards of the cameras....... Correct, if the buck is a homebody you can do something with him, if he's a drifter then good luck with that. Some camera strategies may work better than others as for as not spooking. You still have to have one that will cooperate.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: wew3006]
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07/26/16 04:36 PM
07/26/16 04:36 PM
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2Dogs
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I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me. That's a good use of cams as well, carry them hunting and check or pull the cam while hunting that spot. I just don't like to make unnecessary trips and stink the place up.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: 2Dogs]
#1797205
07/26/16 04:40 PM
07/26/16 04:40 PM
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I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me. That's a good use of cams as well, carry them hunting and check or pull the cam while hunting that spot. I just don't like to make unnecessary trips and stink the place up. thats how I do it. most times it may actually be three weeks, a month or more before I hunt that spot again.
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1797212
07/26/16 04:47 PM
07/26/16 04:47 PM
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Yelp softly
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2dogs has given an actual answer with regards to the original question. Props to you, sir. 2 cameras facing opposite directions is a concept I never considered. I still don't like the concept of placing them and collecting them so close to "prime time".
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: wew3006]
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07/26/16 04:51 PM
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I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me. You put the rice bran right with the trophy rock? Is that a bran formulated just for deer, I want to try this out.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Atoler]
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07/26/16 04:54 PM
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Yelp softly
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As far as trying to pattern mature deer in bama. I think most people do more harm than good in alavama, unless you have a unique piece of property Yes, this is my hypothesis. I should've formed it in the form of a poll but I doubted folks would give honest answers. I fully understand that it's really cool to get pictures of a Whitetail stud on your property. When getting those pictures makes it harder to kill him, it is counterproductive. If anyone has a proven strategy for photographing and pursuing the same deer, I'd like to hear from that guy.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Successful camera strategy
[Re: Yelp softly]
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07/26/16 04:58 PM
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As far as trying to pattern mature deer in bama. I think most people do more harm than good in alavama, unless you have a unique piece of property If anyone has a proven strategy for photographing and pursuing the same deer, I'd like to hear from that guy. (in my opinion) it is 100% dependent on your land layout. If its a bunch of pines and cutover, its going to be tough. If you have heads of woods that are travel corridors through ag fields, it is easier to run cameras.
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