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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: AU7MM08] #1773310
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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773313
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I worked for $3.35 an hour for what seemed like forever before I got a raise that put me at $5.00 an hour. Man I thought I had it made!
I was single, living at home and all of that money was mine to do with how I pleased. Then I graduated from high school, got married and joined the Army and she spent that money faster than I could make it.


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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773315
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Definitely fun to reminisce.


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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: Clem] #1773318
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Originally Posted By: Clem

Definitely fun to reminisce.


Not always'...

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773322
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One of my best employees is an Albanian immigrant. She came to the US at age 16 with nothing and is now a US citizen living the American dream. She is hard-working and has zero sympathy for the "I want something for nothing" types. So I made her HR manager. She culls them faster than a high fence hunter on Outdoor Channel.

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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773323
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What gets me is the kids who think they deserve a brand new $40K truck when they haven't worked a day in their life, and the parents buy it and then wonder why junior won't get off his ass.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: GomerPyle] #1773333
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Ron Swanson is spot on as usual ! There are a ton of agricultural and forest industry families in this state who once used their children to work the fields, woods, and sawmills. OSHA regulations have made that nearly impossible today! I know plenty of grown men who started as children shoveling sawdust and stacking lumber. They learned their family business from the ground up, but now they can't teach their kids the same ways. Every business I know of has labor issues these days even for jobs not considered to be manual labor.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773352
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$15/hr = 31k/yr

$10k/yr just to educate kids (+ infrastructure, etc)

How much of that $31k is being paid in state taxes, including what you are paying?

Lets say that their wives work and they make $50k together and they pay 20% state taxes = 10k/yr

If they have 1 kid/employee on average then you are taking money from every person in the state just for educating their family.

Just another perspective. You get a good employee and everyone else in the state pays for that employee.





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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773447
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If we had to rely totally on locals, we would have been out of business years ago. And when you say that, some folks automatically go to "what do you pay", as if the reason is the pay grade. That is not the case. We pay better than other local similar businesses ($12-$15), pay for their work clothes and pay 100% of the employees insurance. They can get family coverage for $20/week. The locals just won't work. Evidently, they don't have to.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773450
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Lazy parents = lazy kids.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773467
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Apples to oranges. While I won't make excuses for anyone being lazy, you can't compare what an immigrant from Mexico will work for and what someone raised in this countries nanny state will work for. The average wage in Mexico is about 2.50 per day. One man working here and sending money home can support an entire extended family over there. Imagine moving to a country where you make the same amount in a day you make in a month here. I would guess you would be very grateful for that job. Not to mention if your child is born here its like hitting the lottery with free education even to include college in some states and food, housing, and health care.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773473
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Originally Posted By: WildlifeBiologist
One of my best employees is an Albanian immigrant. She came to the US at age 16 with nothing and is now a US citizen living the American dream. She is hard-working and has zero sympathy for the "I want something for nothing" types. So I made her HR manager. She culls them faster than a high fence hunter on Outdoor Channel.
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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: Beer Belly] #1773512
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
$15/hr = 31k/yr

$10k/yr just to educate kids (+ infrastructure, etc)

How much of that $31k is being paid in state taxes, including what you are paying?

Lets say that their wives work and they make $50k together and they pay 20% state taxes = 10k/yr

If they have 1 kid/employee on average then you are taking money from every person in the state just for educating their family.

Just another perspective. You get a good employee and everyone else in the state pays for that employee.






Huh? I really didn't follow you here? If you're saying that a couple paying $10k/yr in taxes is actually not covering the cost of a single child's education, that's false. Employers contribute almost the same amount per employee , so that's actually 20k a year taken from their pay.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773554
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The Mexican Maid

The Mexican maid asked the wife of her anglo employer for a pay increase.
The wife was very upset about this, and decided to talk to her about the raise.
She asked: "Now Maria, why do you want a pay increase?"

Maria: "Well, Señora, there are tree reasons why I wanna increaze."

"The first is that I iron better than you."

Wife: "Who said you iron better than me?"

Maria: "Jor huzban he say so."

Wife: "Oh yeah?"

Maria: "The second reason eez that I am a better cook than you."

Wife: "Nonsense, who said you were a better cook than me?"

Maria: "Jor hozban did."

Wife, increasingly agitated: "Oh he did, did he?"

Maria: "The third reason is that I am better at sex than you in the bed."

Wife, really boiling now and through gritted teeth.

Wife: "And did my husband say that as well?"

Maria: "No Señora....the gardener did."

Wife: "So, how much do you want?"

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: charlie] #1773592
06/29/16 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: charlie
Apples to oranges. While I won't make excuses for anyone being lazy, you can't compare what an immigrant from Mexico will work for and what someone raised in this countries nanny state will work for. The average wage in Mexico is about 2.50 per day. One man working here and sending money home can support an entire extended family over there. Imagine moving to a country where you make the same amount in a day you make in a month here. I would guess you would be very grateful for that job. Not to mention if your child is born here its like hitting the lottery with free education even to include college in some states and food, housing, and health care.


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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: Atoler] #1773638
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Most of education funding locally come from property tax, the only taxes your employer is splitting with you is social security. Entitlements are coming out of your pocket, businesses just raise prices to offset tax liability.

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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
$15/hr = 31k/yr

$10k/yr just to educate kids (+ infrastructure, etc)

How much of that $31k is being paid in state taxes, including what you are paying?

Lets say that their wives work and they make $50k together and they pay 20% state taxes = 10k/yr

If they have 1 kid/employee on average then you are taking money from every person in the state just for educating their family.

Just another perspective. You get a good employee and everyone else in the state pays for that employee.






Huh? I really didn't follow you here? If you're saying that a couple paying $10k/yr in taxes is actually not covering the cost of a single child's education, that's false. Employers contribute almost the same amount per employee , so that's actually 20k a year taken from their pay.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773660
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Which is why most business minded conservatives don't really want Trump's wall.

I support it, But I admit I am conflicted.

We need to instill pride in working for a good, honest days pay.

Most kids (white or black) think a factory job is beneath them.

We need to change the "get a degree" for the sake of getting a degree culture.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: burbank] #1773687
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Most Mexican worker groups I've had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with are fiercely loyal and hard working.


And I've never heard about a Mexican crossing himself, then screaming "Sanctus Sanctus Dominus" and start killing everyone with an AK.

Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773693
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Y'all keep singing the praises of the brown man. What y'all forget is, the only reason y'all are still company owners. Is because they couldn't box your company up and ship it down south. Sure they work hard now, but when the first generation has kids. Them kids will eventually chill out, and probably end up being supported by the gov, while breeding like rabbits. Look at California, they took over Compton.


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Re: Send more Mexican workers [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #1773695
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Don't worry though, when the Mex quit working the quatamolins will take there place


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