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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: Skinny]
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05/25/16 04:19 PM
05/25/16 04:19 PM
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turkey247
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Its their land, they own it, it was a privilege that they let the public use it for so long. They really did not have to give any explanation but they felt they needed to. So that's that. They may sell it soon, so what, its none of our business what they do with it now. Correct - it's not surprising they take them out. It's surprising they keep them in.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 01:25 AM
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bamaeyedoc
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Looks like there will be 19,000 acres available for lease in the near future.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 03:29 AM
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slippinlipjr
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I make Calds fer a livin
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End of an era. First ones to go were Covington and Escambia Creek. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the scotch property went up for sale and forever wild got it. Seems like most WMAs down here are owned by FW or the state now.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: slippinlipjr]
#1746615
05/26/16 03:39 AM
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turkey247
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if the scotch property went up for sale and forever wild got it. Not very likely. It's family land. Surrounded by other family land in the area / county. The land is managed just like their other lands. It was just a nice gesture to make it public for so long.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 03:52 AM
05/26/16 03:52 AM
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N2TRKYS
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Sounds like something is rotten in Denmark. If anyone knows the real reason, pm me, I'd like to hear that story more so than the one being told in this article.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: slippinlipjr]
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05/26/16 04:06 AM
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quailman
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Booner
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In a Van, down by the River
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First ones to go were Covington and Escambia Creek. Before they cut every damn tree, Covington had some fine hunting. Never had much luck with Escambia Creek.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 04:14 AM
05/26/16 04:14 AM
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Clem
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It sucks to lose public hunting lands. Truly does. But these still are privately owned lands. The owners are not just going to roll over and say "Well, it's being used for public hunting so we can't cut timber, manage or do anything."
Given the financial straights many state wildlife agencies are in throughout the country, private (or corporate) owners allowing lands to be used for public hunting and other uses probably will continue to decline. Liability, the constant complaints about nitpicky things, possibly being hamstrung by some agreements, getting whacked by the feds on some issues (like this snake thing) ... it's no surprise that a big private landowner or corporate owner would end a public-use agreement and keep it in house.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 04:20 AM
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jacannon
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I would guess that the aggravation out weighs the tax break.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: jacannon]
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05/26/16 04:25 AM
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James
Freak of Nature
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I would guess that the aggravation out weighs the tax break. I wanna say there would be no more tax break, I may be wrong on that?
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: N2TRKYS]
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05/26/16 05:02 AM
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Posts: 11,347 Prattville AL
ElkHunter
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Booner
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Sounds like something is rotten in Denmark. If anyone knows the real reason, pm me, I'd like to hear that story more so than the one being told in this article. No tin hat on this one.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 05:05 AM
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TickaTicka
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The ESA is a powerful tool that the antis use to bludgeon everyone they can. I'm not sure what's at play here but the language of the statement suggests such rotten characters are involved.
Public Land Owner
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 05:13 AM
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Clem
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I don't wear tinfoil hats, but I tend to agree with Ticka. The ESA has so much mumbo-jumbo, red tape and such that it appears it could be rife for possible abuse and few in the public could fight it.
Who the hell knows how many Special Snowflake Snakes or Totally Rad Turtles lived in a place 150+ years ago and how many are there now? So 19,000+ acres is impacted because of 20 snakes found over three decades? Or the "Gulf Beach Mouse" that looks like a friggin' hamster and only has been seen by a few people will prohibit, limit or restrict development, even by a guy who owns land and wants to put up a little beach shack?
It just sucks sometimes, or makes you wonder if antis are pulling strings, when a spider or mouse or green-eyed horsefly has more power thanks to the Feds and the ESA.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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05/26/16 05:32 AM
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Coyote5
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If you own land, in southwest alabama, especially land where timber production is a priority, you may want to be brushing up on black pine snake current events. I don't care if you own 40 acres or 4000. No tinfoil hat needed. This is quickly becoming a reality.....
"The only thing standing between that boy and the penitentiary is me and this belt." My Dad
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: timbercruiser]
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05/26/16 05:46 AM
05/26/16 05:46 AM
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Posts: 24,832 Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
Freak of Nature
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In 98 that damn beach mouse shut down a multimillion dollar condo construction site in Fort Morgan I was working on.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#1746684
05/26/16 06:07 AM
05/26/16 06:07 AM
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Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there
Clem
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I'm 50 years old. I don't know for how many of those years decades I've heard about this elusive "beach mouse" that has supposedly lived and needs protection along the GS/OB coastline (short as it is). I've been up at all hours of the day and night at the beach, been out at night with lights, been in supposed "beach mouse" territory. Never have seen one. They damn sure must be "threatened."
Of course, I've had a hunting license for 34 years and never have received a post-season hunting survey, either. Those things must be protected, too. LOL
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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