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Re: Roswell Women
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tell me when and I'll buy the beer for piss making.......
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/26/11 09:12 PM
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He was a great General that believed in a hard war but more importantly an easy peace. In his letter to the Atlanta City Council : I want peace, and believe it can only be reached through union and war, and I will ever conduct war with a view to perfect and early success. But, my dear sirs, when peace does come, you may call on me for anything. Then will I share with you the last cracker, and watch with you to shield your homes and families against danger from every quarter.
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/26/11 09:27 PM
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Now where should my piss fall?
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 06:57 AM
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I agree with Dustin. If there's one thing you can say about Sherman, it's that he knew how to prosecute a war.
Lesson from Sherman, post WWII Germany, and post-WWII Japan: When the war is prosecuted harshly, and especially when the civilian population suffers greatly, the peace is lasting and comparatively easy. So-called quick and easy conquests (like Iraq) lead to guerrilla action and civil unrest.
Not pretty, but there it is.
Can you imagine what the aftermath of the Civil War would have been like if the Confederate armies had merely been defeated on the battlefield?
"Hell yes I'm ready Woodrow! Don't I look ready?"
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 08:42 AM
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There are lines that may, or may not be crossed when at war.
When women and children are exploited and tortured in the name of war, and the leaders of those type campaigns are praised, what have we become.
He is known as a great General but without compassion for his fellow humans. Not very flattering in my book. You mean things like slavery?
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 08:49 AM
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There are lines that may, or may not be crossed when at war.
When women and children are exploited and tortured in the name of war, and the leaders of those type campaigns are praised, what have we become.
He is known as a great General but without compassion for his fellow humans. Not very flattering in my book. You mean things like slavery? stick to the subject>>>>>Sherman. Terrorist taking the war to women and children. Period.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 08:52 AM
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stick to the subject>>>>>Sherman. Terrorist taking the war to women and children. Period.
WTF are you?
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 08:56 AM
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There are lines that may, or may not be crossed when at war.
When women and children are exploited and tortured in the name of war, and the leaders of those type campaigns are praised, what have we become.
He is known as a great General but without compassion for his fellow humans. Not very flattering in my book. You mean things like slavery? stick to the subject>>>>>Sherman. Terrorist taking the war to women and children. Period. Bringing up slavery is a last ditch effort to legitimize the war by those who know little about it. Bet he didn't know the Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in South either. Plus, Sherman was not against slavery in the least. He thought that slavery was the black man's destiny. He was a terrorist and a madman carrying out a campaign to get Lincoln re-elected.
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Re: Roswell Women
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I do believe that Lincoln had Sherman post-pone his march to the sea until after the election so that argument doesn't hold.
Maybe you should look into why the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to the Southern States.
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Re: Roswell Women
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"Most of the raids on Indian camps were conducted in the winter, when families would be together and could therefore all be killed at once. Sherman gave Sheridan "authorization to slaughter as many women and children as well as men Sheridan or his subordinates felt was necessary when they attacked Indian villages" (Fellman, p. 271). All livestock was also killed so that any survivors would be more likely to starve to death.
Sherman was once brought before a congressional committee after federal Indian agents, who were supposed to be supervising the Indians who were on reservations, witnessed "the horror of women and children under military attack." Nothing came of the hearings, however. Sherman ordered his subordinates to kill the Indians without restraint to achieve what he called "the final solution of the Indian problem," and promised that if the newspapers found out about it he would "run interference against any complaints about atrocities back East" (Fellman, p. 271).
Eight years into his war of "extermination" Sherman was bursting with pride over his accomplishments. "I am charmed at the handsome conduct of our troops in the field," he wrote Sheridan in 1874. "They go in with the relish that used to make our hearts glad in 1864-5" (Fellman, p. 272).
Another part of Sherman's "final solution" strategy against this "inferior race" was the massive slaughter of buffalo, a primary source of food for the Indians. If there were no longer any buffalo near where the railroad traveled, he reasoned, then the Indians would not go there either. By 1882 the American buffalo was essentially extinct."
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Re: Roswell Women
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08/27/11 09:31 AM
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I don't give a rip about something that happened that long ago and debating it is useless.
The term terrorist is used by the victim. The south were victims of Sherman. Had he been a southerner and done that to the north you'd be fine with it.
There were plenty of atrocities on both sides.
Ya'll need something productive to do with your time.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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