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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
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05/04/16 09:24 AM
05/04/16 09:24 AM
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Clem
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Those people DESERVE to live under Clinton rule for 8 years because that's essentially what they are voting for. I can't comprehend that level of head up your ass. It's stupid enough in a primary to throw your vote away but in a general election when you KNOW BETTER! What the @&$! Are they thinking? Dunno. Hard to comprehend that mindset. Just look at the last 8 years and who she worked for after putting aside her (and Bill's) personal hatred of the president ONLY for her own benefit -- to add SecState to her resume -- in order to move a step closer to where we area now and the Clintons' goals of the last 4-5 decades.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
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#1731403
05/04/16 09:28 AM
05/04/16 09:28 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,997 Columbia, SC
CeeHawk37
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But, vote against Trump out of principle and let Clinton skate in. That'll be fine.
The people who will do this and tell you straight faced "I'm voting my CONSCIENCE!" or "If I vote for Trump we will never get the (Unicorn) true libertarian third party candidate we deserve!". Those people DESERVE to live under Clinton rule for 8 years because that's essentially what they are voting for. I can't comprehend that level of head up your ass. It's stupid enough in a primary to throw your vote away but in a general election when you KNOW BETTER! What the @&$! Are they thinking? False. If we were a pure democracy, then yeah it would be throwing away your vote to vote third party. Unless you live in a hotly contested swing state, your vote will either be for the majority party (Republicans in AL), minority party, or third party protest vote. Either way you vote, unless you are in a swing state, it really doesn't matter. The winner is known way ahead of time and said winner is already counting the delegates without any thought of what they need to do to get you to the polls. Notice how many candidates will come to AL during the general election... Third party votes are protest votes in states that the outcome is pre-determined by demographics. In swing states, a vote third party is more like abstaining from voting for one of two likely candidates to win. It is still not a vote for another person. Third parties pull from both sides. Still, if you vote for Hillary, that is the only way she gets a vote. Not if you don't vote for Trump or Hillary.
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
[Re: Irishguy]
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05/04/16 09:30 AM
05/04/16 09:30 AM
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257wbymag
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I can't believe all the worry warts out here. Come on guys quit with all the sky's falling rhetoric.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
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05/04/16 09:40 AM
05/04/16 09:40 AM
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Irishguy
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I can't believe all the worry warts out here. Come on guys quit with all the sky's falling rhetoric. I'm not "worrying" just concerned for the future. If nothing mattered we could simply stand by and let whoever get elected and whatever small special interest group decide the path for our country... My point with the original post and the link to the article was that it will be interesting to see how this plays out int he context of history. Many republics throughout history have devolved into dictatorships and ruin... Read the following quote and decide which stage we are in: “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by dictatorship.
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1) From bondage to spiritual faith;
2) From spiritual faith to great courage;
3) From courage to liberty;
4) From liberty to abundance;
5) From abundance to complacency;
6) From complacency to apathy;
7) From apathy to dependence;
8) From dependence back to bondage ...” Alexander Tyler, 1787
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
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05/04/16 09:44 AM
05/04/16 09:44 AM
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Clem
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I can't believe all the worry warts out here. Come on guys quit with all the sky's falling rhetoric.
I feel the same way about the "gheys in Target!" reactions. It's not like there's a line of creepy man-women outside their bathrooms trying to get in so they can kidnap little girls or boys. But, y'know, gotta fall with the sky when the sky is falling.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
[Re: Irishguy]
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05/04/16 10:54 AM
05/04/16 10:54 AM
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Posts: 12,918 Old Florida
Geno
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Simple mathematics. Slightly more than half do not pay into the system.
Most of those depend on money they get because they did not "win life's lottery".
Most of those do not realize that government has no money (our government anyway) other than that confiscated at the point of a gun. Without the simplest of knowledge, bondage is preordained.
Apathy came and went while I was still pretty much a youngster.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Are We the Wiemar Republic About to Elect a Hitler?
[Re: Irishguy]
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05/04/16 11:06 AM
05/04/16 11:06 AM
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That's why we have a constitution that spells out the powers of each branch of government and a congress and supreme court to check those powers. Definitely not perfect but we are a long way from a dictator taking over without violence. We could be headed that way but not in the next 8 years.
We indeed have that, so why are we so worried about Obama and Clinton seizing power? Because, the next president could possibly nominate 3 Supreme Court Justices. even one of those nominations could turn the course of this nations future. If a Democrat or liberal judge is nominated we will loose any hope of any SCOTUS decision going the way of conservative rulings. thus we as conservatives will loose two of the checks and balances(Judicial/executive) that have put been into place and the forced liberal agenda will be our future. That is why I am Worried!
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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