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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691425
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According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: bama1157] #1691426
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Originally Posted By: bama1157
If you ever wonder what effect man has had on the Bible through the ages Deadwood..

Just look at Constantine and the council of Nicea in AD. 325 when men decided what books would and would not be in the bible... then they supposedly ordered all the other Gospels to be destroyed...



How do you feel about all the other Gospels they have found over the years are they real or fabrications?

Don't get me wrong i am a believer 100% sometimes I guess I just think too much..


The Early Church (for the New Testament) just included the books written by the actual apostles of Christ, which was a pretty common sense thing to do. Not some big conspiracy. The Old Testament had been closed canon since 400 B.C. So there was nothing to discuss/include/exclude with respect to the OT.

The Council of Nicea had virtually nothing to do with what was going to be considered God breathed Scripture in the NT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

There are NO "secret" Gospels out there. Never was. Certainly not anything actually written by the Apostles.


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691432
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Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691434
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Anyone ever wondered what God was doing before he made the universe?

Debate on Noah's Ark-long but interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: hollywud20] #1691435
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Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: AUstan23] #1691436
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
Anyone ever wondered what God was doing before he made the universe?

Debate on Noah's Ark-long but interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

Putting a plan together for the creation of Aldeer.


Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691438
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.

But it's not much more than that.


Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691439
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.


X2


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Flyway] #1691441
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Originally Posted By: Flyway
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.

But it's not much more than that.


yeah, all that science hogwash. we don't need that crap.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691442
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You read from Genesis and it tells of the floods for 40 days and nights if you really set down and think about it if it rains for 5 days there are usually widespread flooding .
So can you imagine the flooding from 40 days and nights ....it tells the earth was flooded for 150 days , that is alot of water that fell over those 40 days . I believe in the word of God and have no reason to dispute it , God is love but he can also bring his rath , he closed the door on the Ark and judgement began .

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691445
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Our pastor at a previous church explained his theory to us about the flood once: He said that the reason that people lived so long before the flood, because there was this vapor that covered the entire globe and protected us from the sun. When the flood came, all that vapor condensed and rained down on the earth. Thus the flood and thus the end of the 900 year life span.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691446
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: Flyway
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.

But it's not much more than that.


yeah, all that science hogwash. we don't need that crap.

No doubt it's science, but it's not very reliable science. There are too many anomalies for carbon dating to be used as the sole source for dating something.


Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Blessed] #1691447
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Originally Posted By: Blessed
You read from Genesis and it tells of the floods for 40 days and nights if you really set down and think about it if it rains for 5 days there are usually widespread flooding .
So can you imagine the flooding from 40 days and nights ....it tells the earth was flooded for 150 days , that is alot of water that fell over those 40 days . I believe in the word of God and have no reason to dispute it , God is love but he can also bring his rath , he closed the door on the Ark and judgement began .


the pea river in elba getting up is a little different caliber of water.

for the ocean to rise only 1" is trillions and trillions of gallons of water. For it to get over 29,029 ft Mount Everest is a whole lot of water.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691448
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The Bible also explains that it came out of the ground, as well.


Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691455
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y'all keep up this blasphemy and the easter bunny aint gonna come see you grin


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691456
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Goodman I look at this as more of a learning experience.



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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: FurFlyin] #1691457
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
I believe every single word of what the Bible says. The inerrant and infallible word of God, written by man, inspired by God.



X2 for me!! You nailed it right on the head!!!


As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691461
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Off the subject just a bit, I've heard all the arguments FOR the death penalty.
Not just the eye for an eye stuff in the Old Testament.



In the New Testament:

Jesus seemed to allude to it being lawful to the crooks on either side of him while they were hanging there dying.

When Paul was on trial and pleading his case, he said that he didn't mind being put to death if he was really guilty. This is evidence that it was legal then.

The Bible also teaches that it's Gods' will that we submit to the authority of our governments. Some governments mandate a death penalty.



As a fallible human, I want REVENGE on certain criminals. Anyone who says it's not at least some form of bloodlust is not being intellectually honest. I have it,too.

I want some folks to get their just desserts. I want 'em DEAD too.

The ONLY reason I DON'T and CAN'T support the death penalty is because I don't think Jesus Christ would have any part of it. I don't think he would "throw the switch. If he ain't doing it, I ain't doing it.

The ONLY reason I WOULD take a life would be in the split second self defense situation or the defense of others in that same scenario. I would run away if I could if it were only ME in danger.

I sin every cotton picking day, but this is a permanent act that you can't undo. That person will never have the opportunity to repent ever again.

I'm a man of many contradictions, I know. But hey, that's what I believe.



Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: AUstan23] #1691463
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: hollywud20
Originally Posted By: jbc


According to the researchers, "40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times the flow of the Niagara Falls... The Bosphorus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days."

^^ crazy


We believe researchers and believe a guy says a rock is 300 billion years old without question, but don't believe the bible.


carbon dating isn't exactly shaking the rock and seeing how old it feels.


X2


I might add that wikipendia is a very poor source. I can go in an edit Yekrut created the universe and trox is a Mexican In that subject


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: bama1157] #1691464
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Originally Posted By: bama1157
Originally Posted By: Irishguy
Originally Posted By: bama1157
Irish I don't know if the Flood story is true for sure but i do believe it, when you look at other civilizations and religions from around the world back then they all have a flood story so i would say it was world wide and caused by the last ice age melting off..


This is true. I believe it too. There are many stories of a flood from many different cultures. If these other cultures were also around for the flood, how did they survive? Wasn't Noah and his family the only ones? You see where this goes? grin


Yes I see.... I don't think that the whole world was covered in water just that almost all civilizations were on the coasts around the world so when the glaciers melted and the water rose 300-400 feet and covered them up..


problem with that is not all coastal areas are flat, i.e. the Himalayan region where people have lived in the mountains for thousands of years before The Great Flood.

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