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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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02/26/16 06:46 AM
02/26/16 06:46 AM
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Moose24
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Dang. The original bill struck out the existing language of "baited field". Which would have allowed hunting dove on a baited field. But someone caught the mistake and put it back in the bill.
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
#1666466
02/26/16 09:38 AM
02/26/16 09:38 AM
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trlrdrdave
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Dove are migratory. They fall under federal laws against baiting. State can't make dove baiting legal, just like ducks.
Last edited by trlrdrdave; 02/26/16 09:38 AM.
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: trlrdrdave]
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02/26/16 11:31 AM
02/26/16 11:31 AM
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Moose24
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Dove are migratory. They fall under federal laws against baiting. State can't make dove baiting legal, just like ducks. Gotcha
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/16 04:12 PM
02/27/16 04:12 PM
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257wbymag
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Don't care for the proposed legal hunting hours change at all. I see my biggest deer when others are already at the truck. Yea cause you kill them all around midnight with a Q beam.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 05:47 AM
03/09/16 05:47 AM
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Muddybucks7
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Y'all heard any thing else about the bait bill yet?
beauties in the eye of the bowholder
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 05:57 AM
03/09/16 05:57 AM
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From what I am seeing on the innerweb, There is supposed to be a hearing today at 2:30.
my 2nd amendment guarantees your 1st amendment!
cixelsyd ton m'i tub (but i'm not dyslexic)
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 02:15 PM
03/09/16 02:15 PM
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Moose24
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New version of the bill:
1 174880-5 : n : 03/09/2016 : SANFORD / kr 2 3 AGRICULTURE, CONSERVATION AND FORESTRY COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE 4 FOR HB43, AS ENGROSSED 5 6 7 8 9 SYNOPSIS: Under existing law, by regulation of the 10 Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, 11 as it relates to hunting deer on private lands, 12 there is a rebuttable presumption that any bait or 13 feed located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and 14 not within the line of sight of the hunter is not a 15 lure, attraction, or enticement to, on, or over the 16 areas where the hunter is attempting to kill or 17 take the deer. 18 This bill would allow the taking of 19 whitetail deer at high fence deer operations or 20 feral swine by means of bait under certain 21 conditions. 22 23 A BILL 24 TO BE ENTITLED 25 AN ACT 26 Page 1
1 To amend Sections 9-11-244 and 9-11-245 of the Code 2 of Alabama 1975, relating to hunting; to allow the taking of 3 whitetail deer at high fence deer operations or feral swine by 4 means of bait under certain conditions. 5 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA: 6 Section 1. Sections 9-11-244 and 9-11-245 of the 7 Code of Alabama 1975, are amended to read as follows: 8 "§9-11-244. 9 "(a) No person at any time shall take, catch, kill 10 or attempt to take, catch or kill any bird or animal protected 11 by law or regulation of the State of Alabama by means, aid or 12 use, directly or indirectly, of any bait such as shelled, 13 shucked or unshucked corn or of wheat or other grain, salt or 14 any other feed whatsoever that has been so deposited, placed, 15 distributed or scattered as to constitute for such birds or 16 animals a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the 17 area where such hunter or hunters are attempting to kill or 18 take them; provided, that such birds or animals may be taken 19 under properly shocked shucked corn and standing crops of 20 corn, wheat or other grain or feed and grains scattered solely 21 as a result of normal agricultural harvesting and provided 22 further, migratory birds may be hunted under the most recent 23 provisions established by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service 24 or regulations promulgated by the Commissioner of the 25 Department of Conservation and Natural Resources within the 26 limits of the federal regulations. The prohibition to the aid
1 or use of bait under this section shall not apply to the 2 hunting of whitetail deer at high fence deer operations or 3 feral swine. 4 "(b) A landowner or an agent, servant, employee, or 5 another person authorized by the landowner in writing may 6 lawfully bait the landowner's property for whitetail deer or 7 feral swine. 8 "§9-11-245. 9 "No person shall at any time make use of any 10 pitfall, deadfall, baited field, cage, trap, net, pen, baited 11 hook, snare, poison, explosive, or chemical for the purpose of 12 injuring, capturing, or killing birds or animals protected by 13 law or regulation of this state. This section shall not 14 prevent the trapping of animals classified as fur-bearing 15 animals by a duly licensed fur catcher. It shall be legal to 16 use a scaffold for gun hunting of all legal game species 17 except wild turkey and to use a scaffold for bow hunting of 18 all legal game species." 19 Section 2. This act shall become effective on the 20 first day of the fourth month following its passage and 21 approval by the Governor, or its otherwise becoming law.
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 05:06 PM
03/09/16 05:06 PM
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So it would only be legal for high fences? Am I reading that right?
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Baiting Law
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03/09/16 05:17 PM
03/09/16 05:17 PM
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So it would only be legal for high fences? Am I reading that right? That is how I read it too. If that is the case, damn the deer may as well be tied to the damn feeder. Fish in a barrel for some poor sap to pat themselves on the back for shooting a GIANORMOUS buck! Big deer, small character!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: buzzard]
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03/09/16 05:20 PM
03/09/16 05:20 PM
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James
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So it would only be legal for high fences? Am I reading that right? Don't know. But the whole supplemental BS law they passed, was just a way to shut folks up that were complaining, about high fence operations feeding year round (And hunting) and getting away with it..
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 05:35 PM
03/09/16 05:35 PM
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ya'lll quit reading too soon....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/09/16 06:01 PM
03/09/16 06:01 PM
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You talking about (b) Fred?
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: timbercruiser]
#1681705
03/10/16 04:00 AM
03/10/16 04:00 AM
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Posts: 25,687 South Alabama
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Looks like (b) would legalize baiting. I wonder if paper companies/landowners would have to give permission in writing for a lease holder to bait? Yes.
Last edited by Rebelman; 03/10/16 04:00 AM.
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/10/16 04:15 AM
03/10/16 04:15 AM
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Gotcha1
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Probably be a good time to get with your reliable neighbors and agree not to use corn. (now this is a pipe dream).Feeding for the season is expensive enough with 3 or 4 feeders. This way, everybody will have their own feeder. Hopefully the money factor and the lack of imagined success will cut back on some of it.
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Re: Baiting Law
[Re: HHSyelper]
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03/10/16 05:30 AM
03/10/16 05:30 AM
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Okay, for us simple minded, is it legal or not to have a feeder out while hunting? I've got the disc hooked up and ready to make some planting decisions about planting for the spring and summer. Just wish it would be as simple as yes or no.
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