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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Thorm465]
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02/11/16 03:12 PM
02/11/16 03:12 PM
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doekiller
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The only way you aren't going to be outgunned in an active shooter situation is if you carry an AR and several mags everywhere. People watch too much TV.
Carry the most effective weapon that you are comfortable using and carrying everyday. It might not even be the same gun in different situations. I carry both a pocket pistol and a Glock depending on the situation but I don't feel outgunned even when I'm carrying the Kahr P-380. It's likely more than I'll ever need. Sir maybe you should watch the news more often. If the next ISIS/muslim terrorist attack is nearby where you call home, you'll start thinking a lot differently. Maybe if ISIS had put a hit on your head as they have every active/veteran and our families you'd think differently. Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. If it's not more than you'll ever need then you'll never need more again. paranoid much!?
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Goatkiller]
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02/11/16 03:15 PM
02/11/16 03:15 PM
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Thorm465
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...Nobody is an expert in a gun fight. In a civilian setting situation awareness is better than any training beyond basic operation and marksmanship.... and will save you from having to use your weapon almost 10 out of 10 times. This is very true. However, situational awareness is something only gained through experience and on;y a small percentage of civilians will ever acquire this skill. At least this is what my experience has led me to believe.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: doekiller]
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02/11/16 03:19 PM
02/11/16 03:19 PM
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Thorm465
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The only way you aren't going to be outgunned in an active shooter situation is if you carry an AR and several mags everywhere. People watch too much TV.
Carry the most effective weapon that you are comfortable using and carrying everyday. It might not even be the same gun in different situations. I carry both a pocket pistol and a Glock depending on the situation but I don't feel outgunned even when I'm carrying the Kahr P-380. It's likely more than I'll ever need. Sir maybe you should watch the news more often. If the next ISIS/muslim terrorist attack is nearby where you call home, you'll start thinking a lot differently. Maybe if ISIS had put a hit on your head as they have every active/veteran and our families you'd think differently. Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. If it's not more than you'll ever need then you'll never need more again. paranoid much!? That's cute. I'll stay aware/prepared, you keep your head in the sand and we'll see who lives longer and families stays safe.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Thorm465]
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02/11/16 03:19 PM
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Wiley Coyote
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Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. I wish I could do this. There's that employer thing
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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02/11/16 03:58 PM
02/11/16 03:58 PM
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bshunt
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I,ve had to pull one and came so so very close to using it.Was told by police that I had all right to have used it.The most tense few moments I,ve ever had.If you ever have to pull one,be sure that your pepared to use.Everwhere I go now,except work,I try to be packing.Not looking for trouble,but wanna be ready in case trouble show's up( and it's happening a lot more these day).
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: EarlPitts]
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02/11/16 04:10 PM
02/11/16 04:10 PM
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wmd
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I have never had a gun pulled on me and have only had to use one in self-defense one time 25 years ago and that was to convince the ex-boyfriend of the girl my brother was dating that he really didn't want to take another step in to my apartment. The guy couldn't let things go though and my brother ended up killing him about a year later.
Last edited by wmd; 02/11/16 04:12 PM.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Thorm465]
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02/11/16 04:15 PM
02/11/16 04:15 PM
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R_H_Clark
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The only way you aren't going to be outgunned in an active shooter situation is if you carry an AR and several mags everywhere. People watch too much TV.
Carry the most effective weapon that you are comfortable using and carrying everyday. It might not even be the same gun in different situations. I carry both a pocket pistol and a Glock depending on the situation but I don't feel outgunned even when I'm carrying the Kahr P-380. It's likely more than I'll ever need. Sir maybe you should watch the news more often. If the next ISIS/muslim terrorist attack is nearby where you call home, you'll start thinking a lot differently. Maybe if ISIS had put a hit on your head as they have every active/veteran and our families you'd think differently. Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. If it's not more than you'll ever need then you'll never need more again. Notice I said to carry the most effective gun that you will be comfortable with and always have with you. If you can always carry a Glock 17 or 19 then more power to you,most people won't. That Glock or AR in your car won't do you much good when you are accosted wearing nothing but a pair of shorts down at the lake. My point is more about always carrying than about what you carry. I don't want people to get a Rambo complex and leave all that gear in their vehicle,which most will wind up doing if what they are carrying isn't convenient and comfortable. let me ask you this since you want to carry an AR in your car. Are you going to get to the safety of your car ,get the AR and then go back into the danger? Your greatest and most likely danger isn't going to be from an active ISIS shooter. It's going to be from a thug who attacks when you aren't prepared and don't expect it.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: wmd]
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02/12/16 02:30 AM
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Little Foot
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I have never had a gun pulled on me and have only had to use one in self-defense one time 25 years ago and that was to convince the ex-boyfriend of the girl my brother was dating that he really didn't want to take another step in to my apartment. The guy couldn't let things go though and my brother ended up killing him about a year later. DAYUM
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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02/12/16 04:30 AM
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Thorm465
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Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. I wish I could do this. There's that employer thing Newish Alabama Law, your employer can NOT prevent you from carrying in your personal vehicle even on company property.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: EarlPitts]
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02/12/16 04:37 AM
02/12/16 04:37 AM
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R_H_Clark
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I would honestly like to know how anyone is thinking an AR in the car can be used.
I can't see and wouldn't recommend going back into an active shooter situation if you had got to your car unless your family is inside with the shooter but I wouldn't leave to go to the car if that were the case.
It might be useful if you were attacked at your car but then you would be better off to just to get away in the car.
You might see yourself going back into a shooter situation to help people,but honestly by the time you get your AR and go back in trained officers are most likely showing up and you will be the first one they shoot.
Last edited by R_H_Clark; 02/12/16 04:40 AM.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: EarlPitts]
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02/12/16 04:56 AM
02/12/16 04:56 AM
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87dixieboy
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Clark it really isn't practical, just keep carrying your pistol. My luck someone would break in the car and steal the dang AR.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: EarlPitts]
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02/12/16 04:59 AM
02/12/16 04:59 AM
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87dixieboy
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Thorm next time you pull up to a work place that has a strict no gun policy for the area, try explaining to them this somewhat new law to them. Im sure they would happily escort you off the property.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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02/12/16 05:10 AM
02/12/16 05:10 AM
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Wiley Coyote
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I would honestly like to know how anyone is thinking an AR in the car can be used.
I can't see and wouldn't recommend going back into an active shooter situation if you had got to your car unless your family is inside with the shooter but I wouldn't leave to go to the car if that were the case.
It might be useful if you were attacked at your car but then you would be better off to just to get away in the car.
You might see yourself going back into a shooter situation to help people,but honestly by the time you get your AR and go back in trained officers are most likely showing up and you will be the first one they shoot. A situation might occur in that you needed to hunker down at your vehicle for an extended period of time. A long gun might be good option in that situation. You may be the only hope of rescue that a loved one has in a particular situation. A long gun might be a good option in that situation. I can assure you that I have more firepower in my vehicle than I do on my person, where and when the law allows it. I may only need 3 gallons of gas in my truck but it usually has over half a tank. It's better to have it and not need it that need it and not have it. YMMV.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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02/12/16 05:13 AM
02/12/16 05:13 AM
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Thorm465
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The only way you aren't going to be outgunned in an active shooter situation is if you carry an AR and several mags everywhere. People watch too much TV.
Carry the most effective weapon that you are comfortable using and carrying everyday. It might not even be the same gun in different situations. I carry both a pocket pistol and a Glock depending on the situation but I don't feel outgunned even when I'm carrying the Kahr P-380. It's likely more than I'll ever need. Sir maybe you should watch the news more often. If the next ISIS/muslim terrorist attack is nearby where you call home, you'll start thinking a lot differently. Maybe if ISIS had put a hit on your head as they have every active/veteran and our families you'd think differently. Carrying an AR and a battle sac in the back of your vehicle isn't a bad idea in the world we live in. If it's not more than you'll ever need then you'll never need more again. Notice I said to carry the most effective gun that you will be comfortable with and always have with you. If you can always carry a Glock 17 or 19 then more power to you,most people won't. That Glock or AR in your car won't do you much good when you are accosted wearing nothing but a pair of shorts down at the lake. My point is more about always carrying than about what you carry. I don't want people to get a Rambo complex and leave all that gear in their vehicle,which most will wind up doing if what they are carrying isn't convenient and comfortable. let me ask you this since you want to carry an AR in your car. Are you going to get to the safety of your car ,get the AR and then go back into the danger? Your greatest and most likely danger isn't going to be from an active ISIS shooter. It's going to be from a thug who attacks when you aren't prepared and don't expect it. I completely agree with this. To answer your question, yes or at least I'd like to think so. To your last point, I prefer to be prepared for both.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: 87dixieboy]
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02/12/16 05:15 AM
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Thorm465
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Thorm next time you pull up to a work place that has a strict no gun policy for the area, try explaining to them this somewhat new law to them. Im sure they would happily escort you off the property. I'm not going to explain anything to them until they're asking why I will not let them search my car or my lawyer is serving them.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: doekiller]
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02/12/16 05:18 AM
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Thorm465
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If Isis attacks around me, I guess I will not be a one man army like Thorm2039485. He can fight off all the terrorist for us. I am more concerned with a robbery or carjacking for myself or my family. I highly doubt I'll be alone. I know other Marines and other Veterans in my area that stay prepared for terrorist to show up in our area. We will not sit back and allow ourselves to be helpless victims.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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02/12/16 05:21 AM
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Thorm465
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I would honestly like to know how anyone is thinking an AR in the car can be used.
I can't see and wouldn't recommend going back into an active shooter situation if you had got to your car unless your family is inside with the shooter but I wouldn't leave to go to the car if that were the case.
It might be useful if you were attacked at your car but then you would be better off to just to get away in the car.
You might see yourself going back into a shooter situation to help people,but honestly by the time you get your AR and go back in trained officers are most likely showing up and you will be the first one they shoot. Without training and the confidence to employ that weapon, this probably isn't for you. I just know I would never be able to live with myself if I ran while others were slaughtered.
�Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn�t pass it to our children in their bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.� � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: Thorm465]
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02/12/16 05:28 AM
02/12/16 05:28 AM
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R_H_Clark
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I would honestly like to know how anyone is thinking an AR in the car can be used.
I can't see and wouldn't recommend going back into an active shooter situation if you had got to your car unless your family is inside with the shooter but I wouldn't leave to go to the car if that were the case.
It might be useful if you were attacked at your car but then you would be better off to just to get away in the car.
You might see yourself going back into a shooter situation to help people,but honestly by the time you get your AR and go back in trained officers are most likely showing up and you will be the first one they shoot. Without training and the confidence to employ that weapon, this probably isn't for you. I just know I would never be able to live with myself if I ran while others were slaughtered. You really do think you're Rambo don't you.
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Re: Handgun question
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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02/12/16 05:52 AM
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doekiller
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I would honestly like to know how anyone is thinking an AR in the car can be used.
I can't see and wouldn't recommend going back into an active shooter situation if you had got to your car unless your family is inside with the shooter but I wouldn't leave to go to the car if that were the case.
It might be useful if you were attacked at your car but then you would be better off to just to get away in the car.
You might see yourself going back into a shooter situation to help people,but honestly by the time you get your AR and go back in trained officers are most likely showing up and you will be the first one they shoot. Without training and the confidence to employ that weapon, this probably isn't for you. I just know I would never be able to live with myself if I ran while others were slaughtered. You really do think you're Rambo don't you. He doesn't think he is Rambo. Rambo was a pussy compared to him.
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