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The old days.
#1643999
02/08/16 07:09 AM
02/08/16 07:09 AM
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ElkHunter
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Looks like the 2015-2016 deer season will be the last of its kind. Right wrong or indifferent, it looks like baiting will be part of Alabama’s deer seasons from now on. Hope you all had a good season and will remember the “Way it used to be”.
I went to college in TX back in the late 80's and that is how almost everyone out there hunts. Big guns, long shots, feeders with corrals around them to keep the hogs and livestock out. All were the norm then and I guess will become the norm here.
The "Hunting Club" rules will change a lot as well. Corn, no corn, my stand, public stand, who fills the feeders, who buys the corn, do we still plant or just bait..... All items to work out in the baiting age.
At least the argument over it will cease. Once it passes, it will be here. We will all have to live with it one way or another. I have no doubt I will hunt over corn as well. I already do A LOT for pigs.
Just a few things I thought about yesterday sitting on my stand and watching my deer season fade away.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 07:21 AM
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Clem
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I don't make enough money to buy corn, roasted beans, bran or whatever. Will just keep hunting on my property how we hunt now.
But yes, things are about to change forever and won't be the same. For those "progressives" wanting baiting and special this or special that kind of changes, just remember that you reap what you sow.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Clem]
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02/08/16 07:29 AM
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I'm loving hunting in TN more and more by the minute.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 07:33 AM
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bama1157
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I am not sure how I feel about baiting for deer I might do it if i have a young kid that has never killed one but I don't think I would let him know the field was baited, Now baiting for hogs heck let it fly and kill them all, the green fields at the club looked like a D-9 had been riding around on them!!
The end of democracy and the defeat of the American revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporation's Thomas Jefferson. 1812
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 07:33 AM
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Baiting will be approved there before long, IDOT. It's only a matter of time, just like in Mississippi. TWRA's commissioners are moneyed politico appointees just like in other states.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 07:44 AM
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I would like to see some data on baiting before legalization/after legalization. Has anyone seen data from other states?
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:02 AM
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:06 AM
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. I completely agree.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:15 AM
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Since baiting has been legalized in GA, we see far more deer on our little property today than when it was illegal to bait. That is my personal experience.
I would like to see a well documented study.
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Last edited by Shaw; 02/08/16 10:29 AM.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:16 AM
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I don't like it. I know from being in the "professional" animal raising business for most of my life that any time you congregate animals you increase the disease risk and spread of diseases. I'm sure I will start feeding once it's legal to hunt over. I don't have any studies to back this up but I feel it will be better for the deer herd to keep the feed off the ground. Gravity feeders would be much more sanitary than broadcast feeders or feeding off the ground.
Guess I need to get started designing a gravity feeder to manufacture
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:33 AM
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Unless you're the only one corning, I don't see that it would hold deer ONLY on your property. As I stated the other day, I killed a buck a month ago that had whole kernel inside his esophagus and I had stopped filling my legal feeder over a month prior. Of course, this is not empirical data, just my experience with this one deer.
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"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 09:24 AM
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I really don't care either way. To bait or not to bait. I just wish they would make up their minds what's legal and what's not. I primarily hunt public land and don't see where this will change how or where I hunt. I know some that will spend hundreds just to sit and look at fat crow's. They have always put out corn and don't have any better luck than I do without it. To each his own.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 10:37 AM
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Florida has allowed baiting for well over 25 years. I would think that if moldy corn killed turkeys and deer, we would not have any left to hunt by this time.I also think that a game warden's time would better spent arresting night hunters and poachers.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 10:51 AM
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James
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Don't matter to me..I wasn't born yet, but I remember hearing stories about folks, thinking the world was gonna end because the use of food plots was allowed..
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 11:02 AM
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Since baiting has been legalized in GA, we see far more deer on our little property today than when it was illegal to bait. That is my personal experience.
I would like to see a well documented study.
A good friend of mine is from Georgia and he told me this past weekend they see way more deer in Georgia than he has ever seen in Alabama. Doesn't really make a difference to me as I probably won't hunt over corn but it will be nice to not have to worry about making sure it's all gone 10 days prior to season or whether or not the neighbor has a feeder I didn't know about. I believe a GW's time could be better spent chasing night hunters tresspassors, etc...
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 11:03 AM
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Y'all notice it hasn't said anything about turkeys? Unless I missed it, just deer and hogs.
Turkey hunters could find themselves in a jam if it's approved, no?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 11:05 AM
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shucks folks adapt and move on. Things will be just fine whatever happens. I can't believe some of the petty worries some folks have these days.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: The old days.
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Acid rain is going to destroy the planet....Y2K is going to bring about a technology apocalypse....the Polar bears will be green and dead by the year 2010.....a giant meteorite is supposed to collide with the planet in 2013.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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