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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Dw0229]
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02/04/16 03:14 AM
02/04/16 03:14 AM
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We are not talking of a small circle of friends or people I might know. As far as that goes I still take good deer here and some of my friends do. But on a state level things are not up to par. And when the discontent starts to reach the levels it is now it amounts to something different than being labeled a whiner. I and many others that still kill good deer here believe we have some serious issues at stake. If a person feels everything is a wonderland and has no concerns about our hunting; so be it. I also hunt in another state where the deer hunting is tightly regulated with very strict harvest limits and very limited gun days and believe you me, it has very high payoffs. One of the best things that could happen in Bama in my opinion is for the amount of gun days to be cut pretty harshly. Now I like to hunt as much as the next guy but over 2 months of gun days ? Come on. A lot of you guys don't realize how that much pressure changes deer behavior . The other state I hunt gives me 7 days. And guess what I can do better in 7 days there in what I can in 100 days here. I still enjoy hunting here but I will take quality time over quantity time everytime. This isn't that other state this is alabama it isn't Ohio Kentucky or illinois. If people not just you feel like we don't need to shoot anymore does then don't shoot anymore does. I'm sick of people getting all upset cause they had a bad year and wanting more rules and regulations. If you do better in 7 days up there than a 100 here then lease a big chunk of land and only hunt it 7 days a season. The reason a lot of people had a bad season Is that there are still good acorns on the ground and I'd venture a guess to say 80% of hunters don't know any more than to just go sit in a shooting house on a green field. I'm not trying to say I'm the great white hunter because that's far from the case. That's just my 2 cents
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Forrestgump1]
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02/04/16 04:03 AM
02/04/16 04:03 AM
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chevyman
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When did having a civilized discussion become whining?I saw no whining and we had a normal,maybe better than normal season..Not everyone did..I hunted Wheeler Wildlife Refuge alot.Wheeler usually has acorns rot on the ground there are so many..Almost none this time.I still saw plenty of deer they were just scattered and hard to pattern..
Wisdom doesn't always come with age. Sometimes age shows up all by itself. Roll Tide
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Forrestgump1]
#1639185
02/04/16 04:21 AM
02/04/16 04:21 AM
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Teacher One
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Take a look at the American Indian and compare them to the White tailed deer. Not many Indians roaming the woods these days. Wait a few more years boys and there are not gonna be many deer roaming the woods either.
Think about the Bobwhite Quail and the Cottontail Rabbit also. I used to have literally hundreds of them here on the farm and now I cant tell you the last time I saw a rabbit or a quail here.
Put that in your thought processor and kick it around for a while. I am going to leave it at that. We need some help here in North Alabama no matter what some of you experts say.
I can't stand a thief.
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: NWALJM]
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02/04/16 05:37 AM
02/04/16 05:37 AM
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Beadlescomb
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The way I look at it, instead of calling people whiners that aren't seeing deer where they've traditionally seen them or aren't harvesting deer where they've traditionally done so, be grateful for the success that you've had and pray that God would bless you with continued success. To insinuate that somehow those who aren't killing deer are not doing so because they are inferior woodsmen is a bit haughty and even ignorant of the reality that we're not all playing with the same hand of cards here.
The truth of the matter is, whether you like or dislike the deer hunting regulations in Alabama, they are written in the interest of the large tract hunting clubs and leases and the insurance companies. Insurance companies are the largest lobby in the state and they want deer populations down to reduce car collisions with them. The conservation of the animal and creating an excellent hunting experience for the average hunter is an afterthought.
All I'm saying is most people that I personally know that aren't seeing deer don't put in the work to see them. Over the years I've seen the majority of hunters shift to shooting house green field watchers and that's a fact whether you want to admit it or not. People are pressuring the deer more. I think game cameras hurt more than they help. You are leaving more scent in the woods by checking them all the time. People leave more scent when they are going into the woods to fill there corn feeders. Now I may be wrong but that's just my opinion. I do my scouting this time of year and when I hunt I go straight to the tree or blind I'm hunting and get in my stand. I don't walk around for 30 mI mutes looking for tracks and sign before I hunt
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: 3FFarms]
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02/04/16 08:46 AM
02/04/16 08:46 AM
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Deer populations are down across the board. Most people arent seeing much. And are looking elsewhere This. And it will continue to be this way until something is done about doe harvest. Bingo. Need to go back to the 10-14 day doe harvest season for at least 5 years.
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: NWALJM]
#1639570
02/04/16 09:05 AM
02/04/16 09:05 AM
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Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...
mike35549
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It might be too simple a mind-set when it comes to shooting does, but seems to me that less does = less fawns, some of which will be bucks. The logic doesn't make sense to me. There is no doubt unless your property has passed its carriying capacity causing does to be in poor enough health not to produce fawns. Less does absolutely meens less fawns which meens less bucks. Not sure how dumb you have to be to not comprehend that.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Fishduck]
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02/04/16 10:36 AM
02/04/16 10:36 AM
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It is a fact that I start seeing deer and lots of them on the side of the roads starting Feb 1st. The corn bags also disappear from the roadside. A logical conclusion is when the corn piles are gone in the woods then the deer are on their feet & looking for groceries.
Another logical conclusion would be that winter has taking more of an effect on the local browse, another logical conclusion could also be that every tom, dick and harry is trapesing through the woods hunting the rut, and/or blasting everything that walks into the food plot and the deer have changed there routine. theres alot of variabels that go into deer movement.
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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02/04/16 11:36 AM
02/04/16 11:36 AM
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Beadlescomb
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It is a fact that I start seeing deer and lots of them on the side of the roads starting Feb 1st. The corn bags also disappear from the roadside. A logical conclusion is when the corn piles are gone in the woods then the deer are on their feet & looking for groceries.
Another logical conclusion would be that winter has taking more of an effect on the local browse, another logical conclusion could also be that every tom, dick and harry is trapesing through the woods hunting the rut, and/or blasting everything that walks into the food plot and the deer have changed there routine. theres alot of variabels that go into deer movement. That's how I feel about it.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Forrestgump1]
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02/04/16 11:37 AM
02/04/16 11:37 AM
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Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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If we go back go 10-14 days of doe days I'll sell my stuff and hang it up. I know a bunch of older guys that quit hunting when we went to 3 bucks
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#1639754
02/04/16 11:54 AM
02/04/16 11:54 AM
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Posts: 1,208 Lamar
Fishduck
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It is a fact that I start seeing deer and lots of them on the side of the roads starting Feb 1st. The corn bags also disappear from the roadside. A logical conclusion is when the corn piles are gone in the woods then the deer are on their feet & looking for groceries.
Another logical conclusion would be that winter has taking more of an effect on the local browse, another logical conclusion could also be that every tom, dick and harry is trapesing through the woods hunting the rut, and/or blasting everything that walks into the food plot and the deer have changed there routine. theres alot of variabels that go into deer movement. All that is true. Can safely say there won't be corn sacks decorating the county roads .
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Re: Is it just me?
[Re: Forrestgump1]
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02/04/16 03:28 PM
02/04/16 03:28 PM
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mike35549
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I wish they would go back to doe days shorten gun season by about a month, and make it mandatory to call in your kills and double the price of a hunting liscence. And then all the people that claim they would quit hunting if they done any of those things could take up knitting or bird watching. We would have more deer less hunters and lease prices would go down. It would be a win win for everybody.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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