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Re: I have a simple question [Re: MorningAir] #1545241
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We have plenty of regulation in Alabama. It is harder if you don't own a big chunk of land, but that's just like anything else. If you rent a place you don't get as much say, but you also pay significantly less than owning. Reducing doe harvest and controlling predators would be a great place to start and seems to be necessary in most locations.

Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545253
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After reading numerous posts from you guys I feel like we are all on the same page. It is relieving to know that alot of you feel the same way I do about the current situation. Sure would be nice if we could get something done.

Re: I have a simple question [Re: RonBuck] #1545260
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Have your neighbors over for dinner and talk about forming a cooperative group that agrees to the same harvest principles/guidelines. This will put a larger land mass under management. Do improve the habitat on your small tracts though, it will help and you will see more deer and wildlife as a result.

Re: I have a simple question [Re: bowhunt55] #1545288
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Originally Posted By: bowhunt55
Have your neighbors over for dinner and talk about forming a cooperative group that agrees to the same harvest principles/guidelines. This will put a larger land mass under management. Do improve the habitat on your small tracts though, it will help and you will see more deer and wildlife as a result.


Attempting this now and will try Trapping yotes on as much land as I can get permission on after deer season .. But most people don't have the time to put into trapping to make an Inpact, especially on there leased land . Just wait years down the Road .. Predators will be out of control in most places then It's going to require more governent than it will now to do simething about it .

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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545328
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If the heard is considerably smaller in the future would the predators not loose numbers as well?


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: jaredhunts] #1545375
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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
If the heard is considerably smaller in the future would the predators not loose numbers as well?


That assumption is based on the Concept that deer is the ONLY food source for coyotes and does not account for hunter caused deaths in the deer herd.

In other words.....they do not eat deer exclusively.....they just really like em! wink

Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545438
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We don't need anymore regulations because half the folks aren't gonna abide by the rules anyway. We cannot count on game laws to regulate deer numbers we have to take matters into our own hands. Meaning just because you can shoot a doe a day doesn't mean you need to. What happened to just watching deer and being happy with just having the encounter with a bunch of deer and not shooting one because you liked seeing them? And waiting on a racked buck instead of just shooting something. I could have easily already killed 10 deer this season but I have not fired a shot or clicked my safety off. I don't shoot everything I see and dont really like hunting around people who do.my point being we are the ones that have brought the heard where it is today and if you don't like it practice trigger restraint.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545442
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More deer would create more food for the coyote. More food does create a larger and healthier pack of coyote. Same for the deer.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: hayman] #1545446
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Originally Posted By: hayman
We don't need anymore regulations because half the folks aren't gonna abide by the rules anyway. We cannot count on game laws to regulate deer numbers we have to take matters into our own hands. Meaning just because you can shoot a doe a day doesn't mean you need to. What happened to just watching deer and being happy with just having the encounter with a bunch of deer and not shooting one because you liked seeing them? And waiting on a racked buck instead of just shooting something. I could have easily already killed 10 deer this season but I have not fired a shot or clicked my safety off. I don't shoot everything I see and dont really like hunting around people who do.my point being we are the ones that have brought the heard where it is today and if you don't like it practice trigger restraint.


Most hunters don't share that passion that we have for the sport or wildlife in general . That's why we need regulations . If that means a couple more guys running Around in green shorts . Then so be it . I don't like regulations either , but this is not the sparsely populated Wild West anymore . Hunting is a republican sport, and it would be sad to see us decimate it in a lot of areas because we are afraid of any type of regulation. That's like not letting the gov. Control those companies making the secret apps that terrorist are using .. Personally I see no problem with that .. Smart regulations and minimal regulations is what's needed . Everything about democrats is not all bad just most things .

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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545447
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If you eat what you shoot I have no problem.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: jaredhunts] #1545448
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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
More deer would create more food for the coyote. More food does create a larger and healthier pack of coyote. Same for the deer.


By that reasoning, less deer would also create more rabbits and more available mast. So, more coyote food.

Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545461
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More rabbits would create more dog hunters. Less deer equal less fawns and leftovers from kills. Less easy meals. Rabbits would likely not be an easy target there fore sliming the pack to the hardiest of the animals. Which would also equal fewer pups being born. Less to feed.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: jaredhunts] #1545467
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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
More rabbits would create more dog hunters. Less deer equal less fawns and leftovers from kills. Less easy meals. Rabbits would likely not be an easy target there fore sliming the pack to the hardiest of the animals. Which would also equal fewer pups being born. Less to feed.
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Re: I have a simple question [Re: RonBuck] #1545489
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I honestly dont understand some peoples logic.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545495
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Maybe because it is not logical? smile

Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545500
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Why is it not logical?


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545508
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Too many assumptiions.

Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545513
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Yep.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545527
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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Maybe because it is not logical? smile

Could be.


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Re: I have a simple question [Re: Hogwild] #1545539
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When did coyotes start showing up in large numbers?


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