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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: Dustin]
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11/25/15 05:06 AM
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outdoorobsession
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Who said anything about taking freedoms away from citizens? And I am of the thought that I would rather local men(police) be able to protect my community than for the Feds to come in declaring Marshal law. Plus, how many armed military men/women do you see patrolling your community, how long do you think they take to arrive and start kicking taliban butt?
Two "refugees" One Pressure Cooker  Ruby Ridge Waco Steven Hatfill Richard Jewel We don't have to worry about the government taking our freedoms, we are willingly just giving them up. Dustin hit the nail on the head right here. Im as pro LEO as it can get, but there are limits. It was RIDICULOUS how the Boston PD acted. They say "no weapons" on them...but they had people pointing weapons out of them.. People aiming M4s at civilians in their apt windows etc,..looking for one kid that was wounded and hiding in a dang boat! Dang mar tial law type of behavior by the PD pretty dang quick there. Taking over a huge area of the city, searching without warrents. Really? I thought most here were for personal freedom. No...they dont need MRAPs . If they need to transport folks...an armoured bank type truck with seats is more appropiate. MRAPs are battle vehicles. And the argument about being more secure...well Ive always agreed with the saying "he who gives up liberty for security deserves neither". And soon does not have either. I am against a militarized police force personally.
Last edited by outdoorobsession; 11/25/15 05:08 AM.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: yotetrapper]
#1535678
11/25/15 05:53 AM
11/25/15 05:53 AM
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Geno
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Booner
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Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying and there are lots of scenarios that could go I a bunch of different directions. I just don't agree with your opinion, which is also fine. I'm not worried about the PD being cowardly, they will be there, doing doing the job, but how many good policemen will have to die in order to accomplish the task? How many more lives could be saved if they had access to a armored carrier in a timely manner? Now I don't think they need RPGs or hand grenades, but a armored personnel carrier and Camo? We can play scenarios all day and always find many that are not pleasant - I'm not interested in doing that.
Okay, I'll play one round.
Only if local pd is to cowardly to go get a deer rifle and take care of the situation if a clear shot presents itself or proceed with dynamic entry if not. If the local pd is not familiar with breaching doors and clearing rooms, maybe you should consider installing a different one.
If the local pd really has a need for an apc or an mrap, I'm switching localities.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: Kounse]
#1535766
11/25/15 06:49 AM
11/25/15 06:49 AM
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N. Alabama
Reyn
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Touchy situation but too many LEO's have demonstrated their lack of respect and honoring citizens' rights. So to the LEO's on here... blame your own.
With that said, I'd supported the killing of the Ferguson, MO kid because if you attempt to take a LEO's weapon and you're killed in the process, Good!!! Citizens do have to respect the law.
But it's the LEO's that's caused such distrust in their ranks. This is the exact line of thinking of the black lives matter crew.... Blame everyone of the group. That's why there will always be racial tension because grown men let their emotions make decisions. Most LEOs are white. Does that mean blame you too? I mean you vote. I assume you voted the mayor or council in that hired the chief that hired the crooked cops .How big a paint brush does it take to paint everyone?
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