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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: millstoneman]
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One she is comfortable with. I know that is a generic answer but lots of guys try to push a pistol on their wife. If she isn't comfortable with it, it won't do her any good. She needs to spend lots of time shooting it and becoming very familiar with it. Now, with that said, a very good pistol is the S&W 642 Airweight, hammer less .38. Very easy to shoot, no hammer to get snagged on. No fear of misfire. Very easy to load/reload.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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something that is light and comfortable enough that she'll actually keep in her purse or carry on her.
for mine, it's a small .380...Taurus, Ruger, etc.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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At first I thought you were about to do her in and collect the life insurance. Keltec .380. It is the lightest, smallest .380 made. It shoots six rounds and easily slips into the pocket with decent man-stopping power for about $300.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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11/24/15 10:08 AM
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At first I thought you were about to do her in and collect the life insurance. Keltec .380. It is the lightest, smallest .380 made. It shoots six rounds and easily slips into the pocket with decent man-stopping power for about $300. Thats a bad choice.most women can't pull the trigger work the slide or operate the magazine release. On top of that those little 380's are harder to shoot accurately and have more recoil than a slightly larger 9mm
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: millstoneman]
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My choice would be one of the smith and Wesson 38's lady smith 642 etc or the 9mm glock 42 or 43 can't remember what the model number is.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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11/24/15 10:12 AM
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My wife carries a compact SIG 1911 .45
I thought it was a little big for her but she wanted it and shoots it just fine.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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If she is comfortable with it and shoots it well, anything from about .38 special up would be fine.
If she is a country girl with a lot of shooting time and good safety skills, the training that must be ongoing will be easier and less tedious. If you have to start from scratch - use it as a set of test driving sessions. Rent a lot of different pistols at various ranges and let her shoot them and decide which type and later which model she likes.
Very important - start with a rimfire pistol and move up slowly from one caliber to the next. My wife started with a .22 revolver, moved to a .38 revolver and settled on a 9mm auto with specific mods she wanted after shooting everything I could lay my hands on. I have never mentioned or discussed recoil or muzzle blast. I have had extensive discussions with her about velocity and energy. She routinely puts ten rounds from my .357 sig into 1" at 75 feet without realizing that most people won't even fire that pistol due to perceived recoil/blast.
My wife has a slightly modded glock 26. Not so awful trigger (glock competition trigger package + 25 cent trigger job) and a +2 mag extension.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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11/24/15 10:37 AM
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Thats a bad choice.most women can't pull the trigger work the slide or operate the magazine release. On top of that those little 380's are harder to shoot accurately and have more recoil than a slightly larger 9mm as the op mentioned, everyone has an opinion and generally not a one size fits all discussion. my wife has no probs actuating the slide on the ruger .380 and probably wouldn't tote anything much bigger. I also like a heavier trigger for something she's going to carry in her purse. if you're buying for accuracy, the 380 prob isn't the best choice. im generally more interested in it firing repeatedly and scaring off a perp if the situation were too arise vs. her being able to hit a silver dollar at 20yds. might be worth having her handle a few and see what she's most comfortable with. may check out hoover tactical or similar and let her try a few.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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Thats a bad choice.most women can't pull the trigger work the slide or operate the magazine release. On top of that those little 380's are harder to shoot accurately and have more recoil than a slightly larger 9mm as the op mentioned, everyone has an opinion and generally not a one size fits all discussion. my wife has no probs actuating the slide on the ruger .380 and probably wouldn't tote anything much bigger. I also like a heavier trigger for something she's going to carry in her purse. if you're buying for accuracy, the 380 prob isn't the best choice. im generally more interested in it firing repeatedly and scaring off a perp if the situation were too arise vs. her being able to hit a silver dollar at 20yds. might be worth having her handle a few and see what she's most comfortable with. may check out hoover tactical or similar and let her try a few. The ruger isn't so bad my mom carries one but the keltec is bad
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Re: Pistol for wife
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Stop now and take her and give her 4 options you approve of, but let her choose,because if you pick it out later she will resent it and say she would of picked differently. I tell you this from experience and by purchasing my wife 2 guns for personal defense, 2 because of me picking the 1st one.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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My wife chose the Sig P238
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Re: Pistol for wife
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.38 Special revolver. The one mine carries has a set of CTC grips on them. Women seem to definitely grasp the concept of "whatever that little red dot is on is where the bullet is going" better than men. We tend to over-think stuff.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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I bought my mom a LCP 380 last year for christmas. She hasnt shot more than a box through it just learning how it works and what to expect, but she is very capable. The gun shoots great to be so small, but is very snappy. My fiance carries a S&W 642 .38 special. Great gun, fool proof, cant hit the broad side of a barn more than 10 ft away. I carry a S&W M&P Shield 9mm that shoots great.
The 642 is a great gun for beginners IMO, but i personally like having more than 5 shots, and also i like something more accurate. Her sister carries a LCR that handles well and shoots great.
The LCP is very small, can fit in my pocket. Hold 6+1, which is still not much, but gets the job done. Much more accurate that i thought. The gun is as much, or more snappy than my 9mm is.
My shield has never let me down. Goes bang every time i pull the trigger, has a flush mag that holds 7, or the extended mag that holds 8. With the extended, it has a long enough grip to get your entire hand on, as long as you dont have huge hands of course.
Sister in laws boyfriend carries a KelTec P3AT that has had multiple issues. Would not trust it with my life.
If it were me, I would buy her a M&P Shield or LC9 if she has the know how. If she has never handled a gun, the 642 or LCR is a great gun. If she needs a smaller gun, the LCP fits the bill.
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: millstoneman]
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LCR, light, reliable, simple. Perfect if she's like my wife and doesn't want to practice often.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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My wife could not pull the slide on any of my guns various brand and caliber. Pick one she is very comfortable with, and she will use it (when she needs to) without second guessing anything.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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One she is comfortable with. I know that is a generic answer but lots of guys try to push a pistol on their wife. If she isn't comfortable with it, it won't do her any good. She needs to spend lots of time shooting it and becoming very familiar with it. Now, with that said, a very good pistol is the S&W 642 Airweight, hammer less .38. Very easy to shoot, no hammer to get snagged on. No fear of misfire. Very easy to load/reload. This
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: Geno]
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If she is comfortable with it and shoots it well, anything from about .38 special up would be fine.
If she is a country girl with a lot of shooting time and good safety skills, the training that must be ongoing will be easier and less tedious. If you have to start from scratch - use it as a set of test driving sessions. Rent a lot of different pistols at various ranges and let her shoot them and decide which type and later which model she likes.
Very important - start with a rimfire pistol and move up slowly from one caliber to the next. My wife started with a .22 revolver, moved to a .38 revolver and settled on a 9mm auto with specific mods she wanted after shooting everything I could lay my hands on. I have never mentioned or discussed recoil or muzzle blast. I have had extensive discussions with her about velocity and energy. She routinely puts ten rounds from my .357 sig into 1" at 75 feet without realizing that most people won't even fire that pistol due to perceived recoil/blast.
My wife has a slightly modded glock 26. Not so awful trigger (glock competition trigger package + 25 cent trigger job) and a +2 mag extension.
I would be interested to see that group. I shoot competitively almost every weekend and place top 3 of 40+ at most shoots and I can't put 10 in 1" at 25 yards. Not saying she can't do it but that is a tall order
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Re: Pistol for wife
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Probably 1/3 of the guns I sell at Larry's are to females. After handling and test firing they always get either a small frame.38 revolver or a semi in .380. 9mm in a small frame semi are too stout and anything larger sized in a .38 are too heavy.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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My wife carries a G42 or her XDs 9.
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: millstoneman]
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There are several good choices but like previously stated she'll need to be comfy with it. No matter what you get I would put her through a good familiarization course. I'm a Glock fan and I love both the 42 (380) and he 43 (9mm). The M&P Shield is also a good option and they're made in 9mm and 40. Ruger LCR and LCP are also good choices. Revolvers are a good choice for women, especially those who lack side arm experience, because they are so simple. I do like those few extra rounds you get from an auto and they are much easier to reload.
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: millstoneman]
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As others have stated, let her pick it out. She will likely find a problem with the one you like and purchased so if she picks it out it's not your fault. The 4 you approve idea is a great idea. Biggest debate my wife and I had was about her wanting one that was pink. I was not buying a pink handgun.. PERIOD! And she really wanted it to be pink. I had hope she liked a Shield but she chose a Ruger LC9S which was my 2nd choice behind the shield. Other than a budget I didn't tell her anything so she would choose it based on what felt comfortable in her hands. Unfortunately the LC9S was available in pink so that held us up for 15mins on proceeding with the purchase. Luckily for me an older lady overheard our discussion and intervened. She politely spoke up and said to my wife "honey let me settle this for you and your husband. I was in in your shoes 3 months ago. Never owned a gun and wanting to buy a pink one until a woman I work with told me to stay away from a pink gun. If you ever have to use it you want the person who sees it to know you mean business so don't get a pink gun". It made perfect sense to my wife and that was the end of our dilemma. I would have never thought to say that but was thankful this kind old lady did. Stay away from pink. As far as caliber goes, with advancements in ammo 380 will do fine but if she can handle a 9 that would be better. I would def say steer clear of a 40. Probably even put a subcompact 45 over a 40. Lots of recoil in a 40. Now no one can argue the reliability of a revolver so they are def not a bad choice, but they are somewhat harder to accurately than a semi-auto, mainly because of the trigger pull. Even though they don't need to be able to hit quarters at 10ft you want them to be decently accurate with it when practicing with it. I would recommend a striker fired semi. Better trigger pull and depending on what you get, more round capacity. My wife didn't care much for having her own gun until taking her out and letting HER pick out the one she liked and doing the paperwork etc she was fired up about it. Within 24hrs of buying it she knew more about the gun than I did. Regardless of what she chooses don't let that be the end of it. Buy her a couple hundred rounds of ammo and let her get familiar with it. My wife, after some instruction, can easily work the slide, load and reload, and is getting better handling a malfunction. She can also break it down and clean it by herself. After Christmas, I'm planning on sending her to a class. Regardless of what I teach or try and teacher her, an instructor will teach her more than she will ever get from me. A guy I know purchased his wife a pocket pistol 3yrs ago. She carrys it everyday. To this day she nor anyone else has ever even shot the thing. Who knows if it even shoots. SMH? To me it's just flat out irresponsible. She's a walking liability. For him and everyone around her in the event she ever has to use it. Everyone of us who CC should invest in some type of training. Especially on our wives who likely don't shoot as much as we do. They will learn more on basic handgun class than they will ever get from you (most cases). I've taken 2 handgun classes and as a lifelong shooter I left both classes a better shooter with more knowledge than I had prior to taking them. Good luck and good for you both on deciding it's time to get her armed. Mine finally made the decision when her job changed and made her drive to work through downtown BESMA..
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Re: Pistol for wife
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Unless she really wants to learn to use a semi auto...I mean REALLY...get her a revolver
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Re: Pistol for wife
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My wife carries the S&W bodyguard 380 with the laser on it. Keeps it in a Sneaky Pete holster and people think it's a cell phone in a case. Had security look at it at a concert at Oak Mtn and didn't question what it was.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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TBH, and no one said anything about swine flying, is that in a split second situation most people do not think tactically...especially women... Personally I do NOT like carrying a semi auto, especially one without any mechanical safety besides my finger (grew up on 1911's ...sorry) IMHO its much safer and to be be able to just grasp the firearm (wheel gun} and start blasting without carrying a semi auto and A. having one in the pipe and big time trigger awareness or B. have to work the slide to get one in chamber...
Like I offered...*REALLY* learn to use it a semi...or just start clicking...capacity?...Most situations dont require or allow an 'OK Corral' gun fight...
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Re: Pistol for wife
[Re: ford150man]
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One she is comfortable with. I know that is a generic answer but lots of guys try to push a pistol on their wife. If she isn't comfortable with it, it won't do her any good. She needs to spend lots of time shooting it and becoming very familiar with it. Now, with that said, a very good pistol is the S&W 642 Airweight, hammer less .38. Very easy to shoot, no hammer to get snagged on. No fear of misfire. Very easy to load/reload. I just bought this for my wife.
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Re: Pistol for wife
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If I were looking for a lady's pistol right now I would look at the sig 290rs in 380. My wife hated the trigger pull and lack of accuracy in a revolver. G43 is a good gun too. Lots of options.
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