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Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? #1533454
11/23/15 02:27 PM
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Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533601
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well can we ?


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533616
11/23/15 03:57 PM
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Burn em.


The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533621
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Not in my book. Radical ones are cutting the heads off, moderate ones are cheering them on. They both believe in the Quran, therefore they both believe in striking the necks of the infidel.


If we are to die, let us die like men! General Cleburne, Battle of Franklin, Tennessee November 30, 1864.
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533622
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I'd rather not


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Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533640
11/23/15 04:07 PM
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Make no mistake, we are an infestation of Allahs paradise. We are infidels and the Quran commands them to be patient and wait to kill u


At times my ambition far exceeds my talent.
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533690
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We can Co exist here in the usa with folks who are reasonable and want to become a part of our way of like, and who work and contribute to society. Not with anyone who hates America or wants us to become a sharia country.

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533776
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We can live with them. The Israelis do. They have a slightly different view of how to coexist with people that wish them harm. The Israelis understand that the radical side of Islam is dealt with in a deliberate brutal uncompromising way. Yes, they do have a good deal of suicide bombings and occasional shootings. Instead of making grandiose declarations and hesitant, half hearted measures, they respond swiftly, with fury and a certain brutality that makes others cautiously consider the consequences of their actions.
Don't expect the U.S. to understand this until enough Liberals and Democrats have felt the pain of loss and constant fear. They had rather lose their freedom to appeasement, than to have the sac to live unafraid, and to being UNLIKED by the people that hate them to begin with.

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533824
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You can co-exist with anyone as long as your gun is as big, or bigger, than their's. But when the sh!t hits the fan, I won't be running pass the 1st Baptist church, to get to the Mosque to look for help.

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533834
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No you can not co-exist with a group of people that prescribe to the teachings of a book that contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Make no mistake they are at war with us. They despise us even the so called moderate ones I have seen it first hand. So unless you convert they are bound by there religion to kill you.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1533842
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Nope...


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Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534272
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NO... when the vast majority of Muslims has declared death to America, how in the world do you co-exist with that? You can't expect sheep to co-exist with lions, the stronger will 99% of the time win... that's why we need a different leader.

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534379
11/24/15 07:26 AM
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No matter what the Muslims say, Islam as a religion separate from anything else began in 610 AD/CE under Muhammad. So since that time there has been co-existence....1405 years.

Now that co-existence has been full of times of war, torture, beheading, rape, pillaging, conquests, and slave captivity by Muslims in multiple places on the globe. But as we know, many other tribes, people groups and Christians have gone to war for various reasons and have committed nameless horrible acts in the name of their cause at the time.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Islam and the world for any length of time. Islam is a false and perverted religion that took some Biblical truths and warped them into a political social power weapon of war hell bent on causing mayhem and strife---with Satan at its head using it to kill, destroy, deceive, pervert, twist and separate people from God and the Real Truth.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Christianity (true following, not new age) and the world for any length of time either. God is light and the world is darkness. Satan seeks to wreak havoc on anything. Truth will be mocked, Light will be rejected, Love will be redefined, Virtue will be lost. Biblical Precepts and the World constantly clash...because they are so polar opposite.

Gentlemen, this is a spiritual battle being waged far more than it is a physical battle. Islam is a false religion that is interacting in the world in ways that do not reflect the character, name or nature of the one true God Almighty. Christianity is the Truth but is rejected and mocked.

We've been told over and over, to expect this kind of chaos as the world continues to be taken over by wickedness and all kinds of evil. But there is hope in Jesus for those who have an ear to hear. There is a great awakening happening in the middle east Muslim territories where people are coming to know Christ is waves. And they are being killed in waves too. God is busy gathering his people.

So Stand firm. But not just in a physical way, stand firm in your heart. To do so you must love with abandon just as Christ loved you.

1 Corinthians 16: 13-14
13 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. 14 Let all that you do be done in love.


"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534413
11/24/15 07:48 AM
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No - it would be impossible to co-exist with them, nor should we have any desire.

I don't consider myself a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist- but, we will end up fighting them on our soil at some point; and it won't be a fight against terrorist. It will be door to door, block by block, city by city. And with the idiot that currently occupies the White Hous,e coupled with the liberal agenda that is running rampant; they are enabling their cause and increasing their numbers on our soil.


"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534442
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They are pretty bad. I'm not a fan at all.


Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: straycat] #1534451
11/24/15 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: straycat
No matter what the Muslims say, Islam as a religion separate from anything else began in 610 AD/CE under Muhammad. So since that time there has been co-existence....1405 years.

Now that co-existence has been full of times of war, torture, beheading, rape, pillaging, conquests, and slave captivity by Muslims in multiple places on the globe. But as we know, many other tribes, people groups and Christians have gone to war for various reasons and have committed nameless horrible acts in the name of their cause at the time.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Islam and the world for any length of time. Islam is a false and perverted religion that took some Biblical truths and warped them into a political social power weapon of war hell bent on causing mayhem and strife---with Satan at its head using it to kill, destroy, deceive, pervert, twist and separate people from God and the Real Truth.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Christianity (true following, not new age) and the world for any length of time either. God is light and the world is darkness. Satan seeks to wreak havoc on anything. Truth will be mocked, Light will be rejected, Love will be redefined, Virtue will be lost. Biblical Precepts and the World constantly clash...because they are so polar opposite.

Gentlemen, this is a spiritual battle being waged far more than it is a physical battle. Islam is a false religion that is interacting in the world in ways that do not reflect the character, name or nature of the one true God Almighty. Christianity is the Truth but is rejected and mocked.

We've been told over and over, to expect this kind of chaos as the world continues to be taken over by wickedness and all kinds of evil. But there is hope in Jesus for those who have an ear to hear. There is a great awakening happening in the middle east Muslim territories where people are coming to know Christ is waves. And they are being killed in waves too. God is busy gathering his people.

So Stand firm. But not just in a physical way, stand firm in your heart. To do so you must love with abandon just as Christ loved you.

1 Corinthians 16: 13-14
13 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. 14 Let all that you do be done in love.


Very well said!


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Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: Rickybobby] #1534452
11/24/15 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rickybobby
Make no mistake, we are an infestation of Allahs paradise. We are infidels and the Quran commands them to be patient and wait to kill u


The Quran also encourages their followers to lie about their faith if it advances the cause of Islam. I personally believe this is what Obama has been doing all along. He is a hard core Muslim who claims to be a Christian; he lies about his Muslim faith, all the while advancing the cause of Islam...

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: straycat] #1534456
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Originally Posted By: straycat
No matter what the Muslims say, Islam as a religion separate from anything else began in 610 AD/CE under Muhammad. So since that time there has been co-existence....1405 years.

Now that co-existence has been full of times of war, torture, beheading, rape, pillaging, conquests, and slave captivity by Muslims in multiple places on the globe. But as we know, many other tribes, people groups and Christians have gone to war for various reasons and have committed nameless horrible acts in the name of their cause at the time.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Islam and the world for any length of time. Islam is a false and perverted religion that took some Biblical truths and warped them into a political social power weapon of war hell bent on causing mayhem and strife---with Satan at its head using it to kill, destroy, deceive, pervert, twist and separate people from God and the Real Truth.

Peaceful coexistence is not obtainable between Christianity (true following, not new age) and the world for any length of time either. God is light and the world is darkness. Satan seeks to wreak havoc on anything. Truth will be mocked, Light will be rejected, Love will be redefined, Virtue will be lost. Biblical Precepts and the World constantly clash...because they are so polar opposite.

Gentlemen, this is a spiritual battle being waged far more than it is a physical battle. Islam is a false religion that is interacting in the world in ways that do not reflect the character, name or nature of the one true God Almighty. Christianity is the Truth but is rejected and mocked.

We've been told over and over, to expect this kind of chaos as the world continues to be taken over by wickedness and all kinds of evil. But there is hope in Jesus for those who have an ear to hear. There is a great awakening happening in the middle east Muslim territories where people are coming to know Christ is waves. And they are being killed in waves too. God is busy gathering his people.

So Stand firm. But not just in a physical way, stand firm in your heart. To do so you must love with abandon just as Christ loved you.

1 Corinthians 16: 13-14
13 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. 14 Let all that you do be done in love.


The Truth well spoken..

Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534509
11/24/15 09:15 AM
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Hope to say this the right way. People in the U.S. who claim Islam is a "peaceful religion" are basing their opinion on the manner in which Islam is practiced here. Many Muslims living in America practice a "watered-down version" of the Islam faith - and if that's all you've been around, then you may conclude that Islam poses no threat to others.

The Muslim faith, practiced properly, is built upon the principle of control. If you want to understand the Muslim faith in its truest sense, go visit a middle eastern country that is made up of Muslim people. If they adhere to the Koran, government and religion are not able to be separated. Government is used by Muslims to establish their way of life - and the goal includes the establishment of "Shariah Law"... a law which promotes oppression of women and tolerates no other religion.

With that in mind, we need to realize that "Muslim extremists" are NOT the people who are blowing themselves and everyone else up around the world. "Muslim extremists" are the people who are practicing the watered-down version of Islam. "Muslim extremists" are those who claim that the U.S. Constitution and Shariah Law can co-exist. If one is faithful to the Koran, he/she cannot view anything about our country as righteous.

Thus, to answer the original question... no, we cannot co-exist with true adherents to the Muslim faith without war resulting. We CAN co-exist with the "liberal Muslims" - those who are not truly practicing their faith. IF a Muslim tells you that he/she CAN co-exist with Americans, one of two things is true. One... this person isn't true to the Muslim religion. Two... he/she is lying. Sadly, that's where we're at in this country... and it's part of the reason why the issue about Syrian refugees is so critical.

Last edited by Bamarich2; 11/24/15 09:54 AM.
Re: Can we co-exist with muslims ? Are they really that bad ? [Re: perchjerker] #1534525
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Perch, I wish you would quit beating around the damn bush and tell us how you really feel about muslims grin

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