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Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:07 AM
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want to pick the brains of y'all with a reasonable amount of experience with dirt bikes.
I'm toying with the idea of getting one (used, not new). I've ridden them some, but never owned one, so I'm more-or-less a novice at it. I'm 5'10 but 240lbs, so I need one big enough to tote me, but not so tall that I can't get my feet on the ground.
What size should I be looking at? I don't need to go particularly fast, just want to use it for trail riding and such. I'm assuming a 125 probably wouldn't get it done? would a 250 be sufficient?
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:09 AM
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Central, Al
Bustinbeards
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two stroke or four stroke?
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Re: Dirt Bikes
[Re: GomerPyle]
#1498369
10/28/15 05:11 AM
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Ideally a 4 stroke, just for the sake of not having to mix gas/oil. also, I thought I'd read where the 2 strokes have to be wound out a bit more because they're not as torque-y as the 4strokes, but no idea if that's true.
are there any particular advantages to the 2 strokes?
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:11 AM
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125 minimum for 2 stroke, 250 for 4 stroke
The suspension setup mostly determines how high the bike sits with weight
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Re: Dirt Bikes
[Re: GomerPyle]
#1498383
10/28/15 05:20 AM
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Rmart30
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250 minimum. 4 stroke has more low end torque. 2 strokes make their power up top.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:22 AM
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The Honda CRF230F is bomb proof and has electric start. If you want a 2-stroke look at a KDX200 or 220. Also consider an XR250 Honda.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:23 AM
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Have you considered a dual sport?
That would give you the size you want and the option of riding to your riding destination. I actually had, but frankly I've got no business on the road right now....with my lack of experience, plus I've got a 4yr old and a 2 yr old so I'm not taking that risk. at this point, just want something I can trail ride for fun.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:34 AM
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looking online at the crf230f's....that looks pretty much exactly like what I want, and the electric start would be awesome. I didn't realize that was even an option.
looks like mid/late-2000's models can be had in good shape for around $1500ish. not too bad.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:37 AM
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I had a Honda 200XR mid nineties model. Definately get a four stroke. But the 200 to 250 for trail riding will be ideal for your size. buddy of mine in highschool had a 200xr. think his was a late-80's model, maybe early-90's. it's been several years, but as I remember it was fun bike. It's actually the first one I ever rode.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 05:52 AM
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If you have kids, get a bunch of life insurance (term) and disability if you don't already have it. I'm not even kidding. I have both, but I'm not planning on doing anything crazy and I'm not getting on the road. MrsGomer and I were actually discussing the whole "safety" aspect of it. One of my concerns is that if I got one, GomerJr would probably want one eventually. But I've started doing some research and have come to the conclusion that dirt bikes seem to be "safer" than 4 wheelers. seems to be more "minor" injuries with dirt bikes (broken bones, sprains, bumps/bruises, etc), but seems to be far fewer severe or life-threatening injuries with dirt bikes. this is purely speculation, but I think that may have a lot to do with the fact that anyone can hop on a 4 wheeler and take off, and I think it gives people a false sense of security and they take more risks. Also, if you wreck a 4 wheeler, you risk having it land on top of you. I've ridden on 4 wheelers most of my life, and probably should've been killed a few times. My best friend nearly WAS killed on one after flipping it on a blacktop road at 50+. There's no way in hell I'd put my kids on one. The more research I do, the more I think I'd MUCH rather them ride a dirt bike than a 4 wheeler. EDIT: here's a link to a study done by Johns Hopkins regarding ATV vs Dirt Bike injury http://www.fairwarning.org/2010/10/off-road-4-wheels-are-more-dangerous-than-2-study-shows/
Last edited by GomerPyle; 10/28/15 05:57 AM.
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2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 06:02 AM
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I raced 250's back in the 90's but quit when it became to much of a risk to my business. If I got hurt and couldn't work I was screwed and you can't win scared. 2 stroke racing bikes will hurt you fast especially if you're a novice. Just ask TC. I heard that one he rebuilt bit his arse. So get a 4 stroke and find a group of folks to ride with. You will gain a ton from following and learning from more experienced folks. Plus they will know of more places to go to and that's what makes it fun.
One day the right woman will come along and the next thing you know you'll be wearing her underwear!
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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#1498468
10/28/15 06:04 AM
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If you have kids, get a bunch of life insurance (term) and disability if you don't already have it. I'm not even kidding. I have both, but I'm not planning on doing anything crazy and I'm not getting on the road. MrsGomer and I were actually discussing the whole "safety" aspect of it. One of my concerns is that if I got one, GomerJr would probably want one eventually. But I've started doing some research and have come to the conclusion that dirt bikes seem to be "safer" than 4 wheelers. seems to be more "minor" injuries with dirt bikes (broken bones, sprains, bumps/bruises, etc), but seems to be far fewer severe or life-threatening injuries with dirt bikes. this is purely speculation, but I think that may have a lot to do with the fact that anyone can hop on a 4 wheeler and take off, and I think it gives people a false sense of security and they take more risks. Also, if you wreck a 4 wheeler, you risk having it land on top of you. I've ridden on 4 wheelers most of my life, and probably should've been killed a few times. My best friend nearly WAS killed on one after flipping it on a blacktop road at 50+. There's no way in hell I'd put my kids on one. The more research I do, the more I think I'd MUCH rather them ride a dirt bike than a 4 wheeler. EDIT: here's a link to a study done by Johns Hopkins regarding ATV vs Dirt Bike injury http://www.fairwarning.org/2010/10/off-road-4-wheels-are-more-dangerous-than-2-study-shows/ Good, I'm glad you've at least thought about it. Dirt bikers typically wear helmets too, and 4 wheeler folks almost never do.
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Re: Dirt Bikes
[Re: GomerPyle]
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10/28/15 06:05 AM
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Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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side question:
When I've been out riding [atv's], I've noticed that pretty much all of the dirt bike guys are decked out head-to-toe, and it seems unnecessary. What "gear" is really "must have"? a helmet, obviously. and maybe riding boots for the extra ankle support. but is all the other stuff really necessary or just to "look cool"?
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1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Dirt Bikes
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10/28/15 06:11 AM
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Riding boots will save you're ankles they are a must. Goggle's obviously a kidney belt-back support belt if you're not a teenager. I've had a chest protector save me from getting skint up but I seldom wore it, it made me feel like a green storm trooper.
One day the right woman will come along and the next thing you know you'll be wearing her underwear!
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