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Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences #1439279
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I've got a hard to reach spot that I've actually got to hop 2 electric fences on the back side of a horse pasture to get to and was thinking of trying the "throw n grow" seed on about approximately 30'ish x 30'ish opening between a pretty grown up clear cut and a pine thicket that has a few hardwood mixed in before it turns to all pines. Would I be wasting my time energy and $12 by doing this? I've got several pics of bucks from last year and shot a buck ab 100-150 yards down the tree line as well.

Also, if you do have experience with this type of plot, what is the best seed mix? I know they have a few different blends that they offer.

Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439303
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I would like anyone's opinion also.


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439322
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Search for Blumdsden and CNC's posts and spend hours of enjoyment reading about their experiences. May be quickest to go to the QDMA portion of the forum also.
I hear 257WbyMag has recently sold his 10 ft disc and is now "all in" the the throw and mow rofl

Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439365
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It's just $12 and a little elbow grease. I'd do it if I thought it might help. We don't own any real farm equipment. Most years I mow my plots with my lawnmower and overseed with wheat. Some years they're good. Some years they're not. But I think overseeding is essentially what a lot of farmers do with pastures. It keeps us semi in the game and we get some pretty green fields at times. We have sown oats too and things like no-plow. Really great years we have an old disk you can pull with a 4 wheeler. The more you tear up the ground the better but we've killed deer on overseeded fields.


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439429
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Give it a try. I use this method all the time and it works well for me. Spray the weeds, wait about 2 weeks, sew your seeds and weed eat the grasses and weeds down over the seeds. How thick is the vegetation? What type of soil is it? If it's as hard as a brick, then that is not the ideal location for this method. Cereal rye and wheat grow well using this method along with small seeds like clover,rape,and ptt. I always plant before a rain event. A friend of mine here at work had the same situation. He had a section of cow pasture he wanted to plant, but had nothing but a pump sprayer. I talked him through it and he put in 3 micro plots and they all turned out well. He took a couple does off the plots during bow season. Birds plant millions of seeds just like this everyday. Good luck.

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We did it last year using a lawnmower like AC said, they turned out great. My lease partner didn't believe it would work, now he is ready to plant 10 plots using this method.

Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: blumsden] #1439530
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Originally Posted By: blumsden
Give it a try. I use this method all the time and it works well for me. Spray the weeds, wait about 2 weeks, sew your seeds and weed eat the grasses and weeds down over the seeds. How thick is the vegetation? What type of soil is it? If it's as hard as a brick, then that is not the ideal location for this method. Cereal rye and wheat grow well using this method along with small seeds like clover,rape,and ptt. I always plant before a rain event. A friend of mine here at work had the same situation. He had a section of cow pasture he wanted to plant, but had nothing but a pump sprayer. I talked him through it and he put in 3 micro plots and they all turned out well. He took a couple does off the plots during bow season. Birds plant millions of seeds just like this everyday. Good luck.


I'll be doing some of the same in a couple weeks, including dragging a push mower halfway across the state. Cereal rye, wheat, clover, and rape. Which of the below do you think the mowing does?

1) agitation helps to work the seed to the soil
2) cutting down dead grasses/weeds helps emerging plants quickly get sunlight
3) buries seed under clippings reducing the chance of birds eating them
4) buries seed under clippings helping to keep them moist

Perhaps all 4? If it works it works, just curious what y'all think.

Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439549
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usually that throw in mow is mostly rye grass(not winter rye). You can get 50lbs for the price you pay for little bags of throw and mow, but winter rye would be a better choice mixed with some clover and turnips. Raking the ground beforehand helps.


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439660
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Throw and Grow is a seed mix consisting mostly of ryegrass.......Throw and Mow is a planting technique. I think his original question was asking about the seed mix.


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: Joe4majors] #1439662
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Originally Posted By: Joe4majors

I'll be doing some of the same in a couple weeks, including dragging a push mower halfway across the state. Cereal rye, wheat, clover, and rape. Which of the below do you think the mowing does?

1) agitation helps to work the seed to the soil
2) cutting down dead grasses/weeds helps emerging plants quickly get sunlight
3) buries seed under clippings reducing the chance of birds eating them
4) buries seed under clippings helping to keep them moist

Perhaps all 4? If it works it works, just curious what y'all think.


Yes.....all 4

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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439677
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Been doing it for 3 years in greene co with horrible soil. Works like a champ. We spray in sept, mid oct spread wheat and clover and drag a heavy sizing screen around to mat the dead grass down. Fertilize abt 3-4 weeks later. 10 acres of fields takes about 4 hours with a ranger and a 4 wheeler


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: hunterturf] #1439681
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Originally Posted By: hunterturf
Been doing it for 3 years in greene co with horrible soil. Works like a champ. We spray in sept, mid oct spread wheat and clover and drag a heavy sizing screen around to mat the dead grass down. Fertilize abt 3-4 weeks later. 10 acres of fields takes about 4 hours with a ranger and a 4 wheeler


I've thought about dragging something as well since I don't have frequent access to a bush hog.

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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: Joe4majors] #1439687
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Chain link fence with a couple of cinder blocks works well, or a wood pallet will do the trick too.

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Originally Posted By: hunterturf
Been doing it for 3 years in greene co with horrible soil. Works like a champ. We spray in sept, mid oct spread wheat and clover and drag a heavy sizing screen around to mat the dead grass down. Fertilize abt 3-4 weeks later. 10 acres of fields takes about 4 hours with a ranger and a 4 wheeler


Do you have any pictures? I'm very curious to see how it looks.

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Originally Posted By: CNC
Throw and Grow is a seed mix consisting mostly of ryegrass.......Throw and Mow is a planting technique. I think his original question was asking about the seed mix.


your right, I meant throw & grow blush


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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
Originally Posted By: CNC
Throw and Grow is a seed mix consisting mostly of ryegrass.......Throw and Mow is a planting technique. I think his original question was asking about the seed mix.


your right, I meant throw & grow blush


It's all good. smile


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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439734
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I'm about to start a new thread for the fall on "Throw and Mow" in the QDMA section if anyone is interested. smile

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Re: Throw-n-grow/no till plot seed opinions and experiences [Re: RedneckNinji] #1439761
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I'm about to do the same thing. I've got a spot in the woods that I was just going to use a heavy rake and break up the soil best I could and throw out some seed. I was just thinking about buying a bag of wheat,oats and rye and just overseed the heck out of it and then cover it best I could with the rake.

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Yes a heavy rake and possibly a weed eater is all I will be able to get back to this spot! I just seen the "throw and grow" bags at wallmart and was considering it since it is $12 a bag to grow half acre and a 50 lb bag of corn is $7ish and the deer on this property will eat 50lbs corn in less than a week! I really just use the corn to get pics on trail cam since it has to be 100 yards away and out of sight, but it gets expensive when I have three other spots I'm doing the corned camera trick!

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I used a rye and clover mix last year. It came up well and I didn't really break ground just raked back leaf litter. Just hope you get enough growin at one time. Mine got up bout 4" and the deer devoured it before bow opener. It was put out this weekend last year.


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