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Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1437987
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
What I know is this: My dad didn't hunt, really no older guys in my family did. We had some family land and I bought a gun and was able to hunt the land.
If it was any more complicated than that, I probably wouldn't have started. I really think it's another threat to the future of hunting, although I'm sure y'all think that's crazy, it probably would have stopped me from trying.


The game check is no different. It's not required. And if you can't see how having numbers to put together projected info from is helpful....... Then I can't help you

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438006
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Fact is that hunters here have it the easiest and cheapest of any in the nation and any variance from that just don't fly. Funny thing is, tons of them travel to much more strict states to hunt and fish every year because they feel those states are superior to AL slap

Simple fact is most folks don't care about the overall resource, they are only concerned with their immediate area. If there was a steep decline in deer numbers in any location all of a sudden folks would be beating our doors down and ringing the phone off the hooks and I'd be willing to bet they'd provide all the data and support we needed.

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: NightHunter] #1438054
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
Fact is that hunters here have it the easiest and cheapest of any in the nation and any variance from that just don't fly. Funny thing is, tons of them travel to much more strict states to hunt and fish every year because they feel those states are superior to AL slap

Simple fact is most folks don't care about the overall resource, they are only concerned with their immediate area. If there was a steep decline in deer numbers in any location all of a sudden folks would be beating our doors down and ringing the phone off the hooks and I'd be willing to bet they'd provide all the data and support we needed.


lol thats funny on a few levels . do you give classes on trigger control .

in the end you'll tell them improve habitat , kill less deer , remove predators .

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: NightHunter] #1438072
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
Fact is that hunters here have it the easiest and cheapest of any in the nation and any variance from that just don't fly. Funny thing is, tons of them travel to much more strict states to hunt and fish every year because they feel those states are superior to AL slap

Simple fact is most folks don't care about the overall resource, they are only concerned with their immediate area. If there was a steep decline in deer numbers in any location all of a sudden folks would be beating our doors down and ringing the phone off the hooks and I'd be willing to bet they'd provide all the data and support we needed.


I totally agree. But isn't that the purpose of DMAP though? Is an additional (mandatory) system like game check necessary?

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Atoler] #1438074
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: Remington270
What I know is this: My dad didn't hunt, really no older guys in my family did. We had some family land and I bought a gun and was able to hunt the land.
If it was any more complicated than that, I probably wouldn't have started. I really think it's another threat to the future of hunting, although I'm sure y'all think that's crazy, it probably would have stopped me from trying.


The game check is no different. It's not required. And if you can't see how having numbers to put together projected info from is helpful....... Then I can't help you


I'm not opposed to voluntary game check. Hell in my original post that's basically what I said. I just don't want to turn into that Maine TV show where there's a zillion rules and I'm afraid I'll break them.

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438075
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Until these stupid son of bitches can pull their heads out of their asses and schedule south Alabamas season in accordance with central and north Alabama, PHUCKEM! And you don't need this game check info to correct this issue.


Sorry for the bad language steelman.........not really.

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438085
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: Remington270
What I know is this: My dad didn't hunt, really no older guys in my family did. We had some family land and I bought a gun and was able to hunt the land.
If it was any more complicated than that, I probably wouldn't have started. I really think it's another threat to the future of hunting, although I'm sure y'all think that's crazy, it probably would have stopped me from trying.


The game check is no different. It's not required. And if you can't see how having numbers to put together projected info from is helpful....... Then I can't help you


I'm not opposed to voluntary game check. Hell in my original post that's basically what I said. I just don't want to turn into that Maine TV show where there's a zillion rules and I'm afraid I'll break them.


they have a big enough sample to do what they need to do with out the mandatory check in . won't hurt if they sent out a few more thousand hunter surveys ever year .

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Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438088
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Hey Rem,
You mentioned that you have a list of several reasons that you dislike the Game Check system. Personally, I don't view it as Government overstepping its bounds since its is supposed to be used for gathering data to improve the overall deer herd. Do you have any thoughts in support of the program? What would you hope to see from the DCNR in order to be more inclined to participate?

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438097
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I feel like a tagging system would be the only way to even try and keep tabs on harvest data. I'm not a fan of the idea myself but the voluntary stuff will never give anywhere near accurate harvest numbers

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438189
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I apologize if I misread your OP Rem270, but this radical new idea you got seems to be no different than what's already in place, both being voluntary with just the addition of checking a box now so you essentially take away the "voluntary" part by checking the box on your radical new idea. Or am I just missing something here? I personally don't look at DCNR as a whole the same I do the "big" government.


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: 40Bucks] #1438233
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Originally Posted By: 40Bucks
Hey Rem,
You mentioned that you have a list of several reasons that you dislike the Game Check system. Personally, I don't view it as Government overstepping its bounds since its is supposed to be used for gathering data to improve the overall deer herd. Do you have any thoughts in support of the program? What would you hope to see from the DCNR in order to be more inclined to participate?


I guess a rational explanation of how counting dead deer helps the herd would be a start.

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Dkhargroves] #1438234
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Originally Posted By: Dkhargroves
I apologize if I misread your OP Rem270, but this radical new idea you got seems to be no different than what's already in place, both being voluntary with just the addition of checking a box now so you essentially take away the "voluntary" part by checking the box on your radical new idea. Or am I just missing something here? I personally don't look at DCNR as a whole the same I do the "big" government.


I was being somewhat sarcastic using the word Radical. My point was we could accomplish the end goal without making anything mandatory.

Re: Radical idea for Game Check [Re: Remington270] #1438314
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Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
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