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Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/03/15 06:34 AM
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Any info is greatly appreciated. Been looking at doing some bow hunting on black warrior wma this season, I've been there a couple times scouting and read everything I could find about the place. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on zone a and zone b.
"Double the powder and shorten the fuse"
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
[Re: mr.clif]
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08/03/15 08:23 AM
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Yea I seen plenty of hog sign at black warrior. Looked like they had scratched their backs on every rub I found. I know there has to some good bucks in there. Thanks for info.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
[Re: Ja05]
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08/03/15 08:59 AM
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If you look at the harvest data on buck age structure and quality there really is a negligible difference in the two zones. Zone B has a little better habitat, with timber harvests, prescribed fire. Zone A has little habitat management taking place, except the few food plots planted each year outside the wilderness. We've trapped a lot of hogs. In some areas we are seeing far less hog damage and detecting far fewer on cameras. Hunters are saying they're seeing fewer hogs too. With that said, hogs are expanding into areas we haven't trapped and in areas they haven't been before.
You can certainly kill a nice buck out there between middle of November until early December. We are having an early rifle hunt on Zone B this year on November 13-14. Should be bucks running crazy.
I put a trailcam out just south of Zone B when I moved here, and the first two deer on the camera were a 165-170" 10 point and a 125-130" 8.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/03/15 09:16 AM
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Thanks I'll definitely do that. That's what I'm looking for is to take a good mature buck off of public land. I may never get to but I'm gonna dang sure try.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
[Re: Ja05]
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08/03/15 12:04 PM
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I don't live close to there, and I've never hunted that WMA, but this is a good thread! Those are really informative answers...That's good stuff Matt and tenthlegionnaire!
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/03/15 12:16 PM
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If you look at the harvest data on buck age structure and quality there really is a negligible difference in the two zones. Zone B has a little better habitat, with timber harvests, prescribed fire. Zone A has little habitat management taking place, except the few food plots planted each year outside the wilderness. We've trapped a lot of hogs. In some areas we are seeing far less hog damage and detecting far fewer on cameras. Hunters are saying they're seeing fewer hogs too. With that said, hogs are expanding into areas we haven't trapped and in areas they haven't been before.
You can certainly kill a nice buck out there between middle of November until early December. We are having an early rifle hunt on Zone B this year on November 13-14. Should be bucks running crazy.
I put a trailcam out just south of Zone B when I moved here, and the first two deer on the camera were a 165-170" 10 point and a 125-130" 8. There is an early rifle hunt as in a youth rifle hunt or a special rifle hunt for everyone? I know the youth hunt days are the 13-16 but gun season doesn't open throughout the state until the 21. If its for everyone how does that work where a management area can can decide its on rifle dates outside of state law? I've been to the opening year hunt on zone B before and its already loaded with hunters. I can't imagine it opening the week before season and now its the only place in the whole state for gun hunters to go.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
[Re: ghost rabbit]
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08/03/15 01:20 PM
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Are they still gonna have the muzzleloader hunt this year matt. Yes. The dates are on my agency computer, which I'm almost certain are Nov. 16-18. There is an early rifle hunt as in a youth rifle hunt or a special rifle hunt for everyone? I know the youth hunt days are the 13-16 but gun season doesn't open throughout the state until the 21. If its for everyone how does that work where a management area can can decide its on rifle dates outside of state law? I've been to the opening year hunt on zone B before and its already loaded with hunters. I can't imagine it opening the week before season and now its the only place in the whole state for gun hunters to go. The early rifle hunt is for everyone. WMAs can establish their own special seasons. The reasoning is because for decades hunters have missed hunting the first stages of the rut on Black Warrior. Does are being bred as early as October, with the majority of breeding taking place in mid November. There will also be a special early season hunt on Choccolocco beginning Nov. 7. I agree it will be crowded once the word gets out. There is no doubt about it. I don't see it being more crowded than the first traditional opening day hunt has been though.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/03/15 01:24 PM
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If you look at the harvest data on buck age structure and quality there really is a negligible difference in the two zones. Zone B has a little better habitat, with timber harvests, prescribed fire. Zone A has little habitat management taking place, except the few food plots planted each year outside the wilderness. We've trapped a lot of hogs. In some areas we are seeing far less hog damage and detecting far fewer on cameras. Hunters are saying they're seeing fewer hogs too. With that said, hogs are expanding into areas we haven't trapped and in areas they haven't been before.
You can certainly kill a nice buck out there between middle of November until early December. We are having an early rifle hunt on Zone B this year on November 13-14. Should be bucks running crazy.
I put a trailcam out just south of Zone B when I moved here, and the first two deer on the camera were a 165-170" 10 point and a 125-130" 8. There is an early rifle hunt as in a youth rifle hunt or a special rifle hunt for everyone? I know the youth hunt days are the 13-16 but gun season doesn't open throughout the state until the 21. If its for everyone how does that work where a management area can can decide its on rifle dates outside of state law? I've been to the opening year hunt on zone B before and its already loaded with hunters. I can't imagine it opening the week before season and now its the only place in the whole state for gun hunters to go. I can't find the link to the original article, but this is what I posted back in March when it first came up. "In order to promote hunting on Alabama's public lands, Sykes proposed creating four special-opportunity gun hunts for deer, two in Zone A and two in Zone B. The Zone A hunts are tentatively set for Nov. 6-8 on the Choccolocco WMA and Nov. 13-14 on the Black Warrior Wma. In Zone B, where gun deer season is closed Dec. 1-10 to accommodate the 10-day season shift into February, special-opportunity gun hunts are scheduled to be held Dec. 3-6 on the Barbour and Lowndes WMAs."
Last edited by wmd; 08/03/15 01:30 PM.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/03/15 05:33 PM
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That's some awesome info. I'm hopefully going back this weekend to put some more miles on my boots if I don't die from Lyme disease or Rocky Mountain spotted fever first haha. This year the ticks are BAD! Last weekend I thought they were gonna tote me off! Had some spray that usually works but it didn't this time. Guess I'm gonna get some permethrin to keep the little seed ticks and any other ticks outta my boots and pants. On the weekends of the gun hunts is it so crowded that orange hats are everywhere?
"Double the powder and shorten the fuse"
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/04/15 05:16 AM
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Matt, Do you feel you need to go real deep to get on deer. I went on the spring hog hunt and went maybe 150 yards out a little finger ridge and there were old rubs and scrapes around. I know deeper is probably better but do you see hunters having success that close? Just curious. I hunt skyline a good bit and I think there's a middle zone that gets hammered and a deep and maybe even near zone that doesn't. But is the near zone any good to hunt?
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On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
[Re: Ja05]
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08/04/15 04:00 PM
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It's not meant to improve the hunting. It's about increasing opportunity. Days were taken off the back side of the hunts. All that happened was a shift in days.
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Re: Black Warrior WMA Zone A or B?
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08/04/15 05:06 PM
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Are they still gonna have the muzzleloader hunt this year matt. Yes. The dates are on my agency computer, which I'm almost certain are Nov. 16-18. There is an early rifle hunt as in a youth rifle hunt or a special rifle hunt for everyone? I know the youth hunt days are the 13-16 but gun season doesn't open throughout the state until the 21. If its for everyone how does that work where a management area can can decide its on rifle dates outside of state law? I've been to the opening year hunt on zone B before and its already loaded with hunters. I can't imagine it opening the week before season and now its the only place in the whole state for gun hunters to go. The early rifle hunt is for everyone. WMAs can establish their own special seasons. The reasoning is because for decades hunters have missed hunting the first stages of the rut on Black Warrior. Does are being bred as early as October, with the majority of breeding taking place in mid November. There will also be a special early season hunt on Choccolocco beginning Nov. 7. I agree it will be crowded once the word gets out. There is no doubt about it. I don't see it being more crowded than the first traditional opening day hunt has been though. I really hate to hear this. bankhead has always been a great place to get to bow hunt the rut before the crowd hits. O, well I guess all good things have to come to an end!
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