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Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404641
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Well she may get beat come tomorrow night. That chick she is fighting tomorrow night looks like a transgender Romanian gypsy weightlifter. And that dude, ugh I mean chick is one bad-arse she-man.

Rhonda is beautiful very hot! Is there any truth to the rumor that she prefers to eat fish tacos?

Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404659
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I think what there saying is, in street fight there aint no weight class, also in the ring, you cant use certian moves. like kicking when opponent is down. elbows from the ground, eye gouge, biteing etc.etc. But if you think she can whoop one of them tutwiler gladiators that live everyday around killers that could attack at any given time, your mistaken.


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Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404687
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Goodman,I agree there are some bad women in prison,but they just won't stack up to Rousey,she's faster,prolly stronger,just as mean and is trained in fighting,she's not a sloppy street fighter(see Kimbo slices MMA stats).as far as weight class goes it's different for woman,most that are over 160lbs are fat and out of shape unlike men where a 200lb guy would have trouble with a 240lb guy that's in shape,also with the biting, eye gouging,kicking when down and all that illegal stuff you do realize in a street fight Rousey could do that also making her even more dangerous

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y'all keep talking about her losing a bar fight b/c the opponent would "neutralize" her training by fighting dirty......

what, you don't think she'd fight dirty too? and I bet she knows a lot more "illegal" moves that she could bust out during a bar fight than your average dude.


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Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404698
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As far as weight classes and training go, when the UFC first started as an underground tournament , the baddest man in the world was Royce Gracie at a whopping 160 lbs. There were no weight classes and the guys Royce beat were everything from kickboxers to street fighters. I watched him destroy a 460lb guy with jujitsu in what is still one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. He tried to rip the guys jugular vein out before the ref stopped him. An untrained big man or woman is nothing for a highly skilled MMA fighter.


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Originally Posted By: bill
As far as weight classes and training go, when the UFC first started as an underground tournament , the baddest man in the world was Royce Gracie at a whopping 160 lbs. There were no weight classes and the guys Royce beat were everything from kickboxers to street fighters. I watched him destroy a 460lb guy with jujitsu in what is still one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. He tried to rip the guys jugular vein out before the ref stopped him. An untrained big man or woman is nothing for a highly skilled MMA fighter.
That on video anywhere?


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Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404718
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Those early UFC videos are bizarre and crazy.

Re: How long would you last? [Re: gman] #1404721
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Originally Posted By: gman
Originally Posted By: bill
As far as weight classes and training go, when the UFC first started as an underground tournament , the baddest man in the world was Royce Gracie at a whopping 160 lbs. There were no weight classes and the guys Royce beat were everything from kickboxers to street fighters. I watched him destroy a 460lb guy with jujitsu in what is still one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. He tried to rip the guys jugular vein out before the ref stopped him. An untrained big man or woman is nothing for a highly skilled MMA fighter.
That on video anywhere?


I don't know I watched it nearly 20 years ago on a vhs tape.


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Re: How long would you last? [Re: bill] #1404728
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: gman
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As far as weight classes and training go, when the UFC first started as an underground tournament , the baddest man in the world was Royce Gracie at a whopping 160 lbs. There were no weight classes and the guys Royce beat were everything from kickboxers to street fighters. I watched him destroy a 460lb guy with jujitsu in what is still one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. He tried to rip the guys jugular vein out before the ref stopped him. An untrained big man or woman is nothing for a highly skilled MMA fighter.
That on video anywhere?


I don't know I watched it nearly 20 years ago on a vhs tape.


Bill, that was totally different. No weight classes. No rounds, they fought until there was a winner. It was a tournament, you win, there wasn't any waiting weeks for another fight. It was going to happen within a day or 2. Todays fighter isn't built to just keep going with no time limit or round. Royce was the toughest I have ever seen. He won 3 of the first 4 tournaments. The tournament he didn't win he won the fight but was beaten so bad he couldn't continue in the tournament and had to forfit.

Re: How long would you last? [Re: centralala] #1404733
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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: gman
Originally Posted By: bill
As far as weight classes and training go, when the UFC first started as an underground tournament , the baddest man in the world was Royce Gracie at a whopping 160 lbs. There were no weight classes and the guys Royce beat were everything from kickboxers to street fighters. I watched him destroy a 460lb guy with jujitsu in what is still one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. He tried to rip the guys jugular vein out before the ref stopped him. An untrained big man or woman is nothing for a highly skilled MMA fighter.
That on video anywhere?


I don't know I watched it nearly 20 years ago on a vhs tape.


Bill, that was totally different. No weight classes. No rounds, they fought until there was a winner. It was a tournament, you win, there wasn't any waiting weeks for another fight. It was going to happen within a day or 2. Todays fighter isn't built to just keep going with no time limit or round. Royce was the toughest I have ever seen. He won 3 of the first 4 tournaments. The tournament he didn't win he won the fight but was beaten so bad he couldn't continue in the tournament and had to forfit.


Yep. Today's fighter is more well rounded than the old fighters but that is how the sport evolved. Royce would be there today if he were younger.


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Re: How long would you last? [Re: jlbuc10] #1404736
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He liked to drag people around by the hair too. There wasn't any rule about that back then either.

Re: How long would you last? [Re: centralala] #1404744
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He used to piss me off to watch him(Gracie)...them jokers ever got close to him that was it...game over...He could take a beating though...Then folks like Tank Abbott and some others took over for a while seems like idk...Either way... Ronda is one bad chick... wink I hope she stays on top for a while... cool


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Originally Posted By: charlie
He liked to drag people around by the hair too. There wasn't any rule about that back then either.


I saw him pull the ponytail OFF of one man!! rofl

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Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
I would venture to guess that maybe 1 out of 1000 non-professionally-trained guys could take her in a fight, whether it was organized or a street fight or whatever.

Sure, a guy that was significantly bigger than her would likely only have to land 1 good punch to knock her out...but guess what, he'd never land a single one.

any "average joe" (untrained) guy that thinks he could take her is lying to himself.


Maybe in a ring but not so much in a real fight. Real fights usually take place in tight places with no room to maneuver. In such a case she would get hit and likely knocked out quick by someone a lot bigger.

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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: charlie
He liked to drag people around by the hair too. There wasn't any rule about that back then either.


I saw him pull the ponytail OFF of one man!! rofl


There weren't any rules. He had one guy in a body lock and took his elbow and drove it straight into his temple with all the force he could muster......3 times before the ref got it stopped. I really thought that guy was dead.


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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
I would venture to guess that maybe 1 out of 1000 non-professionally-trained guys could take her in a fight, whether it was organized or a street fight or whatever.

Sure, a guy that was significantly bigger than her would likely only have to land 1 good punch to knock her out...but guess what, he'd never land a single one.

any "average joe" (untrained) guy that thinks he could take her is lying to himself.


Maybe in a ring but not so much in a real fight. Real fights usually take place in tight places with no room to maneuver. In such a case she would get hit and likely knocked out quick by someone a lot bigger.


NOT.A.CHANCE. Ever watched an MMA fighter when they have someone pinned against the cage?


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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: centralala
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He liked to drag people around by the hair too. There wasn't any rule about that back then either.


I saw him pull the ponytail OFF of one man!! rofl


There weren't any rules. He had one guy in a body lock and took his elbow and drove it straight into his temple with all the force he could muster......3 times before the ref got it stopped. I really thought that guy was dead.


Best I remember there where 2 rules: No eye gouging and no biting. Then it went to 3 rules with no groin kicks. And then to what there is now. Gracie was the toughest man of any size I have ever seen. Gracie and Rousey could produce some tough offspring. grin

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shocked dang sure could.... rofl


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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Well she may get beat come tomorrow night. That chick she is fighting tomorrow night looks like a transgender Romanian gypsy weightlifter. And that dude, ugh I mean chick is one bad-arse she-man.

Rhonda is beautiful very hot! Is there any truth to the rumor that she prefers to eat fish tacos?


You are probably right on one of those assumptions!!!! But the one you are wrong abou is, she ain't getting beat tomorrow!

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I do not know squat about her or this womens MMA, what I do know is she is in a controlled environment and that is way different that the streets fights. I studied martial arts for 4 years and I watched some men and women who were fast and good but it was a controlled environment. I will never forget what Craig Kollars told me, "When most, not all, fighters execute an attack, they hold back out of fear of hurting someone, it is built into a lot of us, the most brutal fighters can shut this fear off while others cannot". If I were in my twenties again and still studying I would go a few rounds with her. I fought women in class and it was hard to over come my upbringing of not hitting women but I realized they wanted to be there and they ha better block.



So you're saying if she got in a street fight that she wouldn't be able to break the other persons arm,leg or choke them out because it's not a controlled environment?that the other person would be that much better of a fighter because they aren't in the ring and are in the street or bar or whatever?i don't care where she is at,you let her square up with any woman with no sucker punches or weapons and she will beat their ass every time,prison chicks,bar chicks or whoever,the everyday person just doesn't have the skillset and mind frame she has when it comes to kicking the chit out of people


The keywords you used were "square up", "Sucker Punches" and "Weapons", in street fighting it is no holds barred and if you do get the first punch in and follow up she would not stand a chance. Once you are hit the first time it can and most likely will stun the crap out of you, if the other fighter follows through and lands more punches and kicks your energy levels start dropping off quickly and your punches and kicks lose effectiveness, I know, I have gone several rounds with fighters before and I know first hand how quickly the fight can go south when they get in the first shot.


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