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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: toothdoc] #1402618
07/29/15 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: toothdoc
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: toothdoc
I've never understood the desire to shoot a lion. I'm not at all opposed to somebody else doing it. To each his own.

When I went on a jeep Safari in Kenya, you could pretty much drive right up to them.


You can drive right up to deer at Guntersville State Park too, do you hunt deer????

They will walk right up to you in Liberty Park too. My understanding is that if you know the right people you can hunt there. It's even been rumored you can pay to hunt the surrounding areas.


I used to hunt there, with a written permit from the owner, Drummond. I have leased land adjoining Liberty Park for hunting. I have had a written permit from other adjoining landowners, US Steel, and have hunted small tracts within Liberty Park the individuals own. no rumor there.....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402622
07/29/15 06:13 AM
07/29/15 06:13 AM
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Ol' Cecil The Lion's got a new gig now....



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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: charlie] #1402623
07/29/15 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: charlie
I had some squirrels eat out of my hand yesterday. Can't understand why anybody would hunt them? Man it is amazing what people say on a hunting website sometimes.
As I clearly stated, I have no problem with it, just zero allure for me to shoot a lion.

Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402627
07/29/15 06:21 AM
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I still could not give two craps about some dead lion with all the crap going on in this world though. I'm regretful I wasted my time on this post giving it even more traction as a legitimate concern.

Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402635
07/29/15 06:33 AM
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Look folks, this is the world we live in whether you like it disagree with it or not and guess what, we hunters are WAY outnumbered by the general public. Guess who LETS us hunt, hmmmm?
So far we have been barely able to keep the laws in our favor to hunt. BUT, the public WILL NOT STAND for baiting innocent animals in to be slaughtered! ESPECIALLY an enclosed HIGH FENCE area (not the case here, but). IF the national media ever makes a concerted effort to sway the general population against hunting, WE ARE SCREWED!!!!! So far, the public has accepted sportsmanship and fair chase hunting, barely. Just remember that the next time you make the argument for baiting or hunting in an enclosed high fence operation. Don't hate on me, I'm just the messenger.


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: rackdisaster] #1402638
07/29/15 06:35 AM
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Quote:
innocent animals


rofl


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402641
07/29/15 06:36 AM
07/29/15 06:36 AM
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IF the dead could could talk, I'll bet there are several thousand black Africans that will argue that lions aren't innocent.....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402646
07/29/15 06:44 AM
07/29/15 06:44 AM
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It seems that some of you think that the $50k he spent is an outlandish number to spend on a lion hunt.

Here's the normal break down:
Most lion hunts in Zim are a 21 day hunt @ $1250 +/- per day. (This is imposed by the government, not the outfitter. Out of the $26,250 +/- the PH might get $5000 or so. Then the trophy fee on the male lion he kills (depending on the concession) will range from $15,000 - $25,000. The concession (tribal land) gets 75% of this fee. In total, the PH will make $7500 +/- out of the total of $50,000 the hunter spent.

The PH will also make a % of each of the other trophies and bait animals that the hunter kills. On a 21-day lion hunt, you'd need 3-5 500-800lb bait animals. Those would cost anywhere from $800-1500 each.

Granted $50,000 is a pile of cash to spend for some of us, to others it's not much at all. It's no different than a guy on here hunting public land compared to the guy that spends $3000 on club dues in a year. The public land guy just can't believe anyone would/could spend $3000+ per year for club dues when you can hunt public ground for free.


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402660
07/29/15 07:14 AM
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Damn, I'm a long way from a lion hunting trip

Re: Poor Lion. [Re: hawgwild] #1402662
07/29/15 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: hawgwild
Damn, I'm a long way from a lion hunting trip
X2 lol


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: hawgwild] #1402665
07/29/15 07:22 AM
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Buc-ee’s Beach Express
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Originally Posted By: hawgwild
Damn, I'm a long way from a lion hunting trip


I think I'm going to shot either a blank panther or a mountain lion on our place in south Montgomery county this hunting season. It costed to much to go to Africa. You can come hunt with me hawgwild. grin


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402666
07/29/15 07:25 AM
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An online petition to President Obama on Change.org demanded "justice for Cecil" and for the creation of new laws protecting big game from being hunted outside of the U.S. and brought back. Over 7,200 supporters signed the petition as of Wednesday morning.

Last edited by Bowfool; 07/29/15 07:26 AM.

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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: Bowfool] #1402669
07/29/15 07:28 AM
07/29/15 07:28 AM
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34°25'49.80"N 86°55'46.99"...
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Originally Posted By: Bowfool

An online petition to President Obama on Change.org demanded "justice for Cecil" and for the creation of new laws protecting big game from being hunted outside of the U.S. and brought back. Over 7,200 supporters signed the petition as of Wednesday morning.
Grief...smh


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402671
07/29/15 07:29 AM
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Lion loose in Milwaukee The good news is we may be able to bag a lion without having to leave the states lol One thing i haven't really heard mentioned is how much the local officials made off of this hunt. Its very very hard for me to believe that the hunting guides didn't grease a couple palms to be able to do what they did, even if things didn't ultimately work out in their favor.

Re: Poor Lion. [Re: Big Game Hunter] #1402674
07/29/15 07:35 AM
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Feller could kill a bunch of critters on this side of the world for 50K, and have $ left to get himself outa jail.



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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: Bowfool] #1402675
07/29/15 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bowfool
Originally Posted By: hawgwild
Damn, I'm a long way from a lion hunting trip
X2 lol
X3 lol


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: James] #1402684
07/29/15 07:49 AM
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Quote:
blank panther


This is like killing one and not killing one all at the same time. grin


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: Bowfool] #1402687
07/29/15 07:55 AM
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Quote:
An online petition to President Obama on Change.org demanded "justice for Cecil" and for the creation of new laws protecting big game from being hunted outside of the U.S. and brought back. Over 7,200 supporters signed the petition as of Wednesday morning.


People are stupid.

A woman can feel a baby kick or move, decide to have it sliced up and suctioned out of her body, and that's fine with some people. A guy shoots a lion and the entire friggin' world thinks he should be hung, hunting should cease and animals are more important than humans.


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Re: Poor Lion. [Re: leroycnbucks] #1402696
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: hawgwild
Damn, I'm a long way from a lion hunting trip


I think I'm going to shot either a blank panther or a mountain lion on our place in south Montgomery county this hunting season. It costed to much to go to Africa. You can come hunt with me hawgwild. grin
Just make sure it doesn't have a name and a coller grin

Re: Poor Lion. [Re: MANGLER] #1402701
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I would hate to be this dentist right now. All the death threats and people wishing harm on this guy, I would be scared to step foot outside. He would be better off in Zimbabwe.

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