Truth. Which is what I did a poor job describing in my original post on this thread.

I understand what your saying but it's also a lot different climate and less grocery options in Kansas. Kind of like in Saskatchewan where there is nothing to eat so they are coming to a pile of Alfa Alfa regardless. The deer at my place may be different but I never get daylight pics of mature bucks at a feeder and I don't get many in the dark.

If it makes people happier to not feed then that's great. I'm all for everybody getting full enjoyment from the great outdoors and support them hunting in anyway they see fit. If hunter success is higher then I would think the guys against it would change their view. Y'all will be killing all kinds of deer while us guys that feed won't have to worry about sharpening our knife.

The state of Alabama tells us how many bucks we can kill which is 3. So what's the big deal with feeding...you can still only kill 3. The outlaws are going to be outlaws. There are guys shooting more than 3 and the same guys are hunting over corn illegally anyway. You can't stop all the outlaws there are not enough boots on the ground. So why not let the guys that follow the rules and spend a lot of money on their properties feed if they want to. Most of the guys out there that are going to be willing to spend money on a feeder permit are carrying a conservation mindset and typically aren't out there to see how many they can kill in a season. Let the DCNR take their 75% cut and we will be a step closer to having the funds to implicate this tagging system that a lot of people would like to see put in to action. Let them hire more wardens since we are already short handed anyway.

Lol. Fill in bait with "gun", and that's what I secretly think about non-bow hunters. That argument don't work with bait or guns though...

If it's legal, I ain't got no issues with either.

Now that's funny there!

There is nothing more boring than sitting over a greenfield. The thoughts of sitting over and watching a pile of corn sounds even less satisfying. The thought of HAVING to put out corn to compete with neighbors sounds frustrating.

We feed cause we hunt in Florida. We do not kill any bucks over the feed. You might see some small bucks, but thats it. Just because you feed, doesnt mean yo gona just fill your freezers. Only thing I think is good about feeding is you helping some farmer that needs it. I am like others to, your only can kill 3 bucks, so is it gona make that much difference?

the 2 high dollar La Floresta clubs have feeders going year around. when the feeders go off, you can dang near close your eyes and pull the trigger and kill a doe. they see bucks on a regular basis too. doesn't sound like fun to me but if killing large numbers of deer is your thing, that's the place to be.

If you're talking about Helton's Pasture as one of them, that hasn't been my experience. Does, yeah, you see a few, but not like you'd think. Bucks, not so much. I hunt there several days a year as a guest (good friend of mine is a member), and I've yet to see a racked buck under a feeder there. Seen plenty of them in those peanut fields they used to have, though.

All of La Floresta, including Helton's pasture has decreased over the last several years (since Ivan). La Floresta requires every club to kill 2 does for every buck, so you definitely don't see as many deer as you used to.

But, La Floresta is proof that when it is done correctly you CAN kill bucks over feeders. Most of that is due to lack of pressure than corn, 1 member per 250-300 acres is the standard for the La Floresta clubs. That is one of the few places I have hunted in Florida that you can actually "see a rut" with multiple bucks chasing hot does.

the main one im referring to has very little pressure due to low member per acre ratio. also, does are archery only all season.

For each his own. For me, sitting on a greenfield in a plush shooting house with a Dr. Pepper, snickers bar, tobacco, and a good book with a field full of deer is what I like. I don't care if I kill a deer. Some may not call that "hunting" but its what I enjoy...just seeing deer. Now, I don't have a comment on the corn issue for one reason: I simply don't care, I won't spend the money on it. But if it's legal and someone wants to, have at it.

If I may ask, why do you just enjoy sitting there watching a bunch of deer? Do you kill anything or just watch?

Damn Clem! Ease up on the guy. It's obvious he is a convicted felon and can own a firearm.

There is some private land inside La Floresta where some very good bucks are killed over bait every year.

Yes, I kill one occasionally. It is rare even though I killed 3 last year I probably haven't killed a deer in 5-6 years prior. Some people like watching birds, some like riding bicycles, some like going to college football games. I like watching deer. And I like the habitat management part. For each his own. I don't argue or disagree with the way anyone "hunts" if they enjoy what they are doing. It should be about enjoyment.

Is that an ever so subtle sales pitch there Rebelman

Sales pitch or not, he has a point. It doesn't matter how many dump trucks of corn you dump on your property, you've not going to "hold" many deer on a couple of hundred or so acres. They roam...it's what they do. There may be special circumstances which help keep them on a particular property, such as terrain features, river, or major highway, but overall, a couple of hundred acres isn't much to a deer.

baiting is a cowardly way of killing deer. its embarrassing that the state is even considering this

Can't let this go, some don't roam, if you have 200 acres of bedding and dump yer truck loads of corn in the middle. Don't set foot on it till breeding just is getting started , I'm betting it'll be a blood bath. MOF you won't need the corn, bedding and stay away " till the time is right" small acreages will produce. Carry on , master baiters.