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Re: We need a few members [Re: Hunt4Jesus] #1341874
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Originally Posted By: Hunt4Jesus
I will add to this, I have been in contact with Ray about the Club. I have to say it is 2 very conflicting stories. I have not looked at the place and honestly doubt I will because I cant afford to lose anymore money on hunting. I hate the fact that such a great place, hunting wise, has came to this. Love to hear from other past members and their take.Some of these stories are nuts, but we do live in a crazy world. To get kicked out for hunting to much just blows my mind! That is what is tough when you go to get into clubs, you just never know who people truly are. It is still tempting to go meet and look at place, and really see for myself. If my son was not involved and primary hunter It would be tempting.


Don't fall into temptation. There is a reason that the only people that stay in this club are Ray, his family, and fellow cronies. Save your time and gas. There are plenty of other options out there.

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Re: We need a few members [Re: DeltaRunner] #1341983
05/01/15 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: DeltaRunner
That fact that it's such a beautiful piece of property is what makes it frustrating. They will accuse you of hunting out of season. The will accuse you of shooting does or lesser bucks. They will accuse you of over pressuring the deer. That's really a joke, Ray and Wes scrub hunt the whole club. They end up wounding and losing deer every year. The Cameron story where he videoed the dying buck. I should have mentioned he shot 2 bucks and brought them back to camp. They were both young. One was a 4 pt and the other a 5pt. Against the rules of course but he claimed they were cull bucks. It got so ugly that night I can't believe it didn't come to blows between the Cameron and a first year member. A couple of members packed up and left in the middle of the night after that. Ray wasn't there that night. I shouldn't have posted here. I'm just getting angry about things I thought I had put behind me.
I know of a similar place just like it.

Re: We need a few members [Re: alhawk] #1341994
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Originally Posted By: alhawk
Originally Posted By: Hunt4Jesus
I will add to this, I have been in contact with Ray about the Club. I have to say it is 2 very conflicting stories. I have not looked at the place and honestly doubt I will because I cant afford to lose anymore money on hunting. I hate the fact that such a great place, hunting wise, has came to this. Love to hear from other past members and their take.Some of these stories are nuts, but we do live in a crazy world. To get kicked out for hunting to much just blows my mind! That is what is tough when you go to get into clubs, you just never know who people truly are. It is still tempting to go meet and look at place, and really see for myself. If my son was not involved and primary hunter It would be tempting.


Deer will make people do crazy things. Ego, jealously and the inabilty to mature are bad character traits.


Amen


"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
Re: We need a few members [Re: ridgestalker] #1342003
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And people still wonder why I dont join hunting clubs. crazy

Re: We need a few members [Re: Hunt4Jesus] #1342284
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Originally Posted By: Hunt4Jesus
I will add to this, I have been in contact with Ray about the Club. I have to say it is 2 very conflicting stories. I have not looked at the place and honestly doubt I will because I cant afford to lose anymore money on hunting. I hate the fact that such a great place, hunting wise, has came to this. Love to hear from other past members and their take.Some of these stories are nuts, but we do live in a crazy world. To get kicked out for hunting to much just blows my mind! That is what is tough when you go to get into clubs, you just never know who people truly are. It is still tempting to go meet and look at place, and really see for myself. If my son was not involved and primary hunter It would be tempting.

Certainly you have friends or family that are in a good club that will recommend you as a prospective member.....that is the only way to be sure of what you are getting. Blind calling from ads posted anywhere is like playing the lottery....You might pick a winner but the odds are against it.


Life is too short to be small !!

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Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342329
05/02/15 04:02 AM
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Hey guys! A friend of mine, and a past member of this club, found this thread and informed me it was a "must read". His handle is Deltarunner. I read it and had to chime in. So, I made a profile last night so I could get in on Mr. Ray Pattersons' Roast.

I too was a member of this club 3 years ago. I will be honest and say that I truly miss the woods there, absolutely beautiful. The place really sells itself. But........ This man lies as well as he breathes, and ignorant, and thinks everyone else is ignorant. Let start here, most of the pictures of bucks that he advertises are not even from the property. Some are pics from Tennessee, which were confirmed by his son Wes, and others are from a parcel they use to lease about a mile down the road, also confirmed by Wes. By the way, is a whinny, can't wait to tell his daddy kind of "grown man", and that could be a whole other rant by itself. Back to Ray, this man also posted new rules to the club with 3 weeks left in the season and a list of people not going to be ask to rejoin the following year. He thought this was the solution to members not agreeing with his management scheme. By the by way, was this "No more does until ALL the browse on the entire property is eaten down, then we need to see 50 plus deer on a food plot at any given time across the property!", he said. I mean, I'm no biologist but come on, there are around 20 food plots on this property, you do the math. Then he would complain about pressure on the deer, while him and his sons would scrub entire sections of the property, repeatedly. If you tried talking to them about it, they were ignorant enough to tell you why they do it, "because we killed some good bucks in that section, just walking the roads". My take on that this, its ok if you are a Patterson, but if you hunt from a climber or tree stand more than 1.5 hours a day then its "too much pressure".

This could go on and on. I hope you guys get the point. STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY!!! I bet he changes the name of the club in a final desperate attempt to keep the lease, so watch out for that, but if anyone else can get the lease, please call me. It will take a couple years to get this place on track but the potential is great!

Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342348
05/02/15 04:35 AM
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Anyone that videos a dying deer or brings one to the cleaning rack still alive because of a spine shot should have their hunting privileges legally revoked for a few years. That's absolutely ridiculous.

Re: We need a few members [Re: SuperSpike] #1342662
05/02/15 03:58 PM
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I was not there to witness this act, but did hear the story from Rays brother Paul around the fire one night, he even seemed disgusted. The son Cameron was flat out crazy. Not only was he part of that, he also strung together 2 bundles of balloons and placed them a few yards apart on a food plot thinking he could get pictures of deer standing between them. He posted videos on youtube of himself purposely wounding deer so he could film them dying up close. To show that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Ray shot 2 hogs, on separate occasions, that he drug to the side of the road then miraculously disappeared before he could get back to them with a 4wheeler. He has 2 very similar stories about 2 different bucks, which were found a couple days later, then he claimed he thought he missed after denying that he shot. We cut the head from one, brought it back to the camp and his son Wes confirmed that his father claimed to have killed it and recognized it by trial cam pics, but gave up looking for it. The buck was found about 200 yards from the stand he shot from.

Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342762
05/02/15 05:48 PM
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I dont understand how the land owner allows this stuff to go on. Does he/she check in from time to time just to make sure everything is going ok? Obviously not I guess.

Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342986
05/03/15 06:47 AM
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Thank you gst789 for stepping up and enlightening the ALDEER members about Ray. The following is an email exchange between Ray and one of his brand new member this year. The date is Dec 8. I will delete his name to protect his identity:


Hello to all,
I have not been up in a couple weeks and have actually hunted about 3 times in a stand. I saw deer each time and had fun. A lot of our members have not been up since season started ? Take some time to come up enjoy the woods. I know most of us have other duties like my wife saying "you will be at the office Christmas Party"..
Not sure why she wants that? Last year I tried to lighten the mood and told a couple jokes. It did not go well . One pun was to our county tax appraiser my wife's boss. He had his cell phone out showing his latest app , showing how it would identify constellations and planets when pointed to the sky. I ask loudly hey you ever see Uranus in that phone ? You could have heard a pin drop!! No raise for the wife last year. hope this years goes better...
Thanks to all that did chores this past weekend . It is good to know we are working towards improvement. Lets all hope for the weather not to see the 70's again till after deer season.
I was disappointed to hear XXXX, with outfitters depot was up expressing discontent this past weekend. XXXX had ask me about harvesting 9 doe for he and his wife under outfitter depot. I told him no - 3 is plenty . XXXX belongs to another club and his partner XXXX is in a club nearby I figure get 3 from each if you must have 9? sounds right to me. I understand he made the comment that he will have to find another home. Sorry to hear this I was hoping for a long term relationship.
Turkey season has it's limits also, It is 5 mature gobblers under any one membership. 5 is a total no matter where in the state they are taken.
I am doing my best to try and keep everyone happy and I am always seeking ways to finance this place and make it better.. We are working on coyotes that are taking so many of our deer. If we can increase the mortality of our deer we can increase our harvest. I have hopes that we can harvest what members wish plus be able to have some income producing bow hunts to help pay for a few tons of off season supplement feed . Take care everyone and remember why Santa's always so Jolly ( he knows where all the naughty Girls live).... Ray woops wife isn't going to want

This is the members response:

Apparently Ray, the info you have received is not completely accurate. Unfortunately, you have not returned any of my phone calls the past 2 weeks so I have not been able to express my concerns with you personally. As the president of any organization and after accepting thousands of dollars from your members, the right thing to do would be to return your phone calls...yep, sounds right to me! Either way, I don't appreciate the lack of consideration and respect you are illustrating and don't understand why you refuse to communicate. When you were trying to sell me this corporate membership to me, you called several times a week and always returned my calls, funny you can't seem to do that now! Whenever you get ready, I will be more than happy to give you first hand facts from me, rather than you take second hand info and start throwing punches in a public email...totally unprofessional in my opinion, yep sounds right to me!



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Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342989
05/03/15 06:51 AM
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Another disappointed member. Rather then contact the member and discuss his issue privately, Ray sent his email to the entire membership. Real class act. I wasn't there and I don't know the actual message the member was trying to express. But if I had to guess I would say Ray's son passed on his own version of events to his dad. Stay tuned. I will share more about his whiny b**ch son.

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Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1342994
05/03/15 07:04 AM
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Ralph was this You ?

Moose Stabbing


You must've missed the other post...


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Re: We need a few members [Re: BDhunts] #1342995
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Originally Posted By: BDhunts
Ralph was this You ?

Moose Stabbing


You must've missed the other post...


HA. No Randy, if that had been me, there would be nothing left but a big steaming gut pile. ;-O

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Re: We need a few members [Re: Radaralph] #1343005
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Originally Posted By: Radaralph
Originally Posted By: BDhunts
Ralph was this You ?

Moose Stabbing


You must've missed the other post...


HA. No Randy, if that had been me, there would be nothing left but a big steaming gut pile. ;-O


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Re: We need a few members [Re: Radaralph] #1343177
05/03/15 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Radaralph
Originally Posted By: BDhunts
Ralph was this You ?

Moose Stabbing


You must've missed the other post...


HA. No Randy, if that had been me, there would be nothing left but a big steaming gut pile. ;-O



Like a phucking Boss!


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Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1343376
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Hey Ray? Are you still reading these post? What is Atkins email address? I want to send him a link to this thread!

Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1343794
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I finally figured out the OP's username. I was pronouncing it like Ray P. Now I've decided it's just one syllable.


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Re: We need a few members [Re: DeltaRunner] #1343800
05/04/15 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: DeltaRunner
Hey Ray? Are you still reading these post? What is Atkins email address? I want to send him a link to this thread!

I'm sure he's still reading. Just trying to figure out a 3rd handle to respond under.

Re: We need a few members [Re: rayp] #1343845
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This thread is great!


With all your heart, you must trust the Lord and not your own judgement. Always let him lead you, and he will clear the road for you to follow. Proverbs 3:5-6
Re: We need a few members [Re: Brent] #1343894
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Originally Posted By: Brent
I finally figured out the OP's username. I was pronouncing it like Ray P. Now I've decided it's just one syllable.


HAHA rofl that def was hilarious... well played...well played


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