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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: Hogwild]
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04/17/15 01:20 PM
04/17/15 01:20 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,835 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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Luverne, AL
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How safe are the funds ear-marked for Conservation and Forever Wild?
Good call. They are not safe because of the last vote which took place that I was arguing against, but everyone said to go ahead and vote for it. This is exactly what I was afraid of, and it is an excuse to raid the Forever Wild trust. This is also probably why Greg Lien who is sharp as tack and knows the game well is making the closures very public. Just my guess, but it is obvious that will be the next move.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/17/15 01:24 PM
04/17/15 01:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,180 Coffee Co, AL
jlccoffee
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All I keep hearing is "They arn't making any money." What??? I thought they were open for folks to enjoy not for the state to make money...It's not a business, to me at least. Everyone has to pull their own weight. You don't have to make a bunch of money but you have to profit enough to pay the light bill. I disagree with this. If the government should be in the park business is up for debate, but I don't think institutions that are profitable should be administered by the government. The government should be there to provide services that are not profitable to private industry. Private industry and capitalism take care of the rest.
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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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04/17/15 01:26 PM
04/17/15 01:26 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,835 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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The politicians have been salivating over the Forever Wild fund, and the other earmarked funds for a long time now. They use these budget "crisis" moments to raid them to pay for their special projects. Its a very typical Alabama politics move that George Wallace perfected in the 1960's. Fact is, they could issue a long-term bond to cover the shortfall without voter approval and put it on a 99 year pay out. But that would be seen as borrowing money we don't have which does not go over well in the press.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: Hogwild]
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04/17/15 01:32 PM
04/17/15 01:32 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,835 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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Once the tap is inserted into Forever Wild.....it WILL be bled dry!!! Yes it will. FW is seen as a big pile of cash for that shiny new toy that you really want really bad. Its burning a hole in their pockets. The problem is, we all know that they will waste it on whores instead of keeping it for its intended purpose.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: Hogwild]
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04/17/15 01:43 PM
04/17/15 01:43 PM
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Posts: 63,835 Luverne, AL
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I wonder if there is anything that We, the People, can do to stop this?? I mean, Forever Wild seems to get overwhelming Public Support. So, that is obviously not enough!!! Have politicians ever really cared about the public? They only care when it comes time to vote. Its not just FW that is going to be victim of this, there are other trust funds for specific things that are also going to be raided. Those funds were created to protect and preserve important things to people. I have created trust funds for my children, would it be ok for me to raid them to pay off a gambling debt? Seems like Bentley wants to do just that.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: State Parks to Close?
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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04/17/15 02:15 PM
04/17/15 02:15 PM
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Posts: 2,777 Athens, GA
WildlifeBiologist
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Posts: 2,777
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AL State Parks Division lives on crumbs compared to most state agencies. For example, they drive hand-me-down gov't surplus vehicles and then run them until the wheels fall off. Greg Lein is doing an excellent job as director too. They are lucky to have him.
Micah 6:8
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