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by Big Bore. 05/01/24 11:16 PM
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
#1310063
03/26/15 11:51 AM
03/26/15 11:51 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,367 Kennedy, al
globe
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Booner
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Booner
Joined: Dec 2002
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Kennedy, al
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Why would they quit giving the info out then? They charge for it now.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: Rebelman]
#1310091
03/26/15 12:33 PM
03/26/15 12:33 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,487 Louisiana
JAT50
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8 point
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Louisiana
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Forest2market has no meaningful purpose at a local level. It will give you some good information on trends in the large scale and national level. BINGO!!!!
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
#1310122
03/26/15 01:19 PM
03/26/15 01:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,367 Kennedy, al
globe
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F2M had a free SE average price chart that was usually two weeks behind, but timber mart south is a quarter behind. It was great for a landowner.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
#1310177
03/26/15 02:16 PM
03/26/15 02:16 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,487 Louisiana
JAT50
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8 point
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F2M had a free SE average price chart that was usually two weeks behind, but timber mart south is a quarter behind. It was great for a landowner. The point is 99% of F2M's info came from the mills that bought the wood. You think that is legit info? I've work for two mills that used it and I've seen some crazy tricks to manipulate that number. Plus a quarter behind is useless even if it was a relevant number.
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
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03/26/15 02:21 PM
03/26/15 02:21 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
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The landowner "makes" whatever price he negotiates for, whether your close or far away. I'm close, I know it, so I ask for more money. The logger can get more loads out which reduces his cost and some of that needs to come my way. It's a negotiation just like buying a car. We always take bids. Highest bid gets it. My dad sent out letters today on a tract he wants cut. Its only about 200 acres but it will be easy cutting. I told him price was way down but he said if he doesn't get what he wants he will wait.
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
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03/26/15 02:47 PM
03/26/15 02:47 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 5,915 Cullman
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(Can't Keep It Up...)
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My forest2market bookmark won't work anymore. They use to give out a free price report, but prob have to pay now. What is hardwood and pine pulpwood going for now with this wet weather? So does anyone have an answer to the op's question? I'd like to know, also.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Timber prices
[Re: globe]
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03/27/15 04:43 PM
03/27/15 04:43 PM
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Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 50 Auburn, AL
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Zone pricing was developed because paper mills can't keep the mill full relying on wood in just a 50 or so mile radius. To get wood from outside a typical procurement area you have to pay a higher delivered price. Generally the landowner will get a similar stumpage from any zone because the extra money in the delivered price goes to the logging/trucking cost. The problem with zones is it encourages zone jumping. Most mills in our area don't have zones so its not a big deal. They usually buy based on the wood specs (especially sawmills). Im pretty sure F2M has changed hands, which is why they went to a pay model. Gotta make money somehow I suppose. Mills were the ones who mainly used their data anyways. F2M stumpage and TimberMart South stumpage numbers were always very inflated for North Alabama.
"Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
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