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by Mbrock. 04/28/24 09:16 PM
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
[Re: RiverWood]
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03/12/15 02:48 PM
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Blumsden you are correct. There are many ways to plant food plots. I agree that anyone who still uses a plow is wasting time & money. They are also not building soil health or increasing OM. However, I strongly disagree that you and CNC can throw seed on top of the ground, mow existing vegetation and grow a crop like a farmer. I've used cover crops for years, however they are only part of our overall weed management program. You can't get high yields without using herbicides. Seed to soil contact, seed planting depth, and seed placement are all critical to successful crops. Land managers with limited acreage available to plant should look for yield, not some fade that is an easier way to plant. Here is another picture of what is not possible…..How high yielding do you need a food plot to be RiverWood? Is this not acceptable?
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
[Re: RiverWood]
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Show me you corn & soybean yield. Anybody can grow grass Get ready to watch videos.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/13/15 01:04 AM
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I've grown some soybeans using this method. I'm not saying and have never said that this is the preferred way to grow large seeded plants, as a matter of fact both CNC and i have repeatedly said that smaller seeds work best. For soys and corn, a seed drill is the way the farmers plant it around here. I understand that everyone is not going to buy a seed drill to plant plots, hell neither am i. I have successfully grown:Buckwheat,sunflowers,all cereal grains,clovers,brassica's,sunn hemp,milo,EW,millet and cowpea's using this method, probably left out a few.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/13/15 04:31 AM
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I sure hope farmers aren't using a drill to plant corn!
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/13/15 04:33 AM
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Show me you corn & soybean yield. Anybody can grow grass You guys slay me how you just keep reaching for anything you can find to discredit what some of us are doing….even if you have to just pull something out of left field that’s really not even relevant like your doing here. Again, I’m not trying to use the throw and mow method to farm high yield corn and beans for profit. I’m #1)…. using it to plant a very functional, low input, year round food plot rotation that accomplishes the goal of continually attracting deer as well as #2)…. improving soil health in the process which in turn allows me to do goal #1 much more efficiently, effectively, and at a lower long term cost. Being that I’m managing for deer and not farming for profit…..I don’t have to grow high cost, high maintenance crops like corn and soybeans. I can accomplish the same deer management goals using much easier options. Options like durana clover for instance…….
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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I sure hope farmers aren't using a drill to plant corn! Why would that be a problem? There are a lot of fields that are planted in corn and their not plowing them, so i would assume, their using a drill.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/13/15 06:13 AM
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I sure hope farmers aren't using a drill to plant corn! Why would that be a problem? There are a lot of fields that are planted in corn and their not plowing them, so i would assume, their using a drill. I'm guessin' 257WM is refering to the difference in a drill and no-till planter.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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Drilling corn would equal disaster. You have to closely regulate corn population for high yield predominately we use vacuum planters or metered planters. Plus row spacing is critical. I was just letting you know there's a huge difference between drilling and planting.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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257, that company phugged up when they hired you . . . . . . . . . You don't know sheeiit about growing corn or soybeans. The best thing to do is just get a bunch of Alabama fans and put em in the back of your pickup and drive through your food plots and let em throw seed corn off the tailgate. Haha yep they did. I don't know sheeit. Just a poor ole ragged dirt farmer done lost all my topsoil cause all I know how to do is plow plow plow.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/14/15 04:13 AM
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257…..Since you seem to want to talk about corn so much, I have a question. How much fertilizer will you apply to your corn this summer? If my K is still holding strong when I get my soil test back…I’m going to try to grow my summer plot this year with no additional fertilizer inputs other than what you see below. I think it'll probably just be some buckwheat and radish/turnip mix added to the durana clover that will likely bounce back. I don’t think a mix like that will need a whole lot of fert to do well. We’ll see what happens. It may still be a little premature but I’m going to begin weaning myself off of synthetic fertilizers. 257…..wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a way that us food plotters could plant our fields without having to buy or handle all of those bags of 17-17-17 or 13-13-13? What do you think? Austrian Winter Pea planted last fall Hairy vetch reseeding from 2013 planting Crimson, yuchi arrowleaf, durana clover…..crimson reseeding from 2013 planting
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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I'll put down 40-60-60 at planting then come back at V4-6 with another 80 units of N for top dress. You can't grow higher yielding crops without synthetic fertilizers
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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03/14/15 05:06 AM
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I'll put down 40-60-60 at planting then come back at V4-6 with another 80 units of N for top dress. You can't grow higher yielding crops without synthetic fertilizers Yeah, that’s kind of what the original article was saying as well. Degraded soils require massive amounts of “bought” fertilizer in order to produce a crop. It looks like you are making a good case for that. How much cost in fert does that equate to....$250 per acre??? Will that be for only one crop? “Degraded soil requires heavy applications of synthetic fertilizer to produce high yields. And because its structure has broken down, the soil washes away easily in heavy rain, taking nitrogen and other pollutants with it into rivers and streams.”
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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Man you're way out of touch. On both fronts. But it'll cost me $62.50 an acre Mr know it all
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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Man you're way out of touch. On both fronts. But it'll cost me $62.50 an acre Mr know it all It's hard to explain the difference between farming for a living, and growing some weeds for the deer to eat. JFC.
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Re: 257.....Here's to you man!
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I guess my "degraded" soils last three yield history look like this: 2012- wheat 89bpa followed by 42 bpa soybeans 2013- 63 bpa soybeans 2014- 93 bpa wheat followed by 38 bpa soybeans
Mind you when I bought the farm in 2012 it was in pasture/hay so it took a lot of litter and lime to build it up.
So piss on your "degraded" soil theory
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