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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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03/05/15 09:53 AM
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Thank you for attempting to educate all us dumb rednecks and our backwards-ass way of thinking.
I now realize that the Pit isn't the only thing I should be cautious about when I encounter one. The owner may be just as dangerous.
wrong again. I'm way more dangerous than my dog. 
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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03/05/15 10:11 AM
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I have never shot a Boston terrier/cocker spaniel mix as far as you know!  FIFY.... Hey now I didn't say that. 
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: BC]
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03/05/15 10:58 AM
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LMAO
So far in this "battle of wits" you have compared a free thinking and unpredicatable animal to two inanimate objects, and told everyone how dangerous you are when it's obvious you are all mouth.
naw. try again. You might wanna read that post again. But thanks anyway cause you're rebuttal just proved my point. CHECKMATE!!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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03/05/15 02:22 PM
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It would never rip a lady's face off on film like the one in the first post in this thread unless of course it had a very good reason like protecting the children from Granny Death who dared to let out a squeal in her backyard in response to having ice water poured over her head. According to tapia we don't know if it's a true pit...it could've been a daschund/retriever for all we know.... It's a shame to know we have pit impersonators walking our streets and living in our homes... God knows what could happen if a "true" pit were to show up... Another genocide could very well happen and wipe out the human race... And to think...we're worried about ISIS when our real threat is right here at home.... Well do you know? or do you just "know" because someone on a You Tube video said it was. What about all of the You Tube videos showing Mermaids, Bigfoots, Loc Ness Monsters, Demons, Zombies, and Chupacabras? I guess they are all real, live things, they have to be because someone said they were!! LOL Please, spare me the dramatics!
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: aldoghunter]
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03/05/15 02:32 PM
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Anyone can defend Pits all they want. Yes, other breeds do attack and bite but the facts are that Pits kill over 3 times as many people than any other breed. Often these deaths are members of the family which raised them.
No they don't. It is rare that a AKC American Pit Bull Terrier mauls or kills anyone. Read all these articles and BS stories that report the number of deaths and you'll find that Pit Bull "LIKE" or mixed breeds that may not even contain Pit Bull Terrier DNA such as a Boxer/Lab mix are the ones being counted as "Pit Bull". Getting your info from these sources is like trying to find a fair article about Christians on al Jazeera I don't see a problem with not liking a dog breed and I am right beside each and everyone of you when you say kill a dangerous dog but to denigrate an entire breed based on ignorance is just beyond my field of comprehension. Fact is, very few of you have ever actually seen a Pit Bull(if it was even a Pit Bull) bite anyone much less been bitten yourself but I bet you you've been bitten by another breed or even a cat.  Sounds like you might be a little confused yourself tapia,there are 3 different breeds that are "PIT BULLS",American Pit Bull Terrier is just one of them.You also have Staffordshire Bull Terrier,and the American Staffordshire Terrier.A "Pit Bull" is a cross breed dog between a terrier and a bulldog, it was originated in the UK back in the early 1800"s. No not confused but you make my point precisely, there are several groups of dogs lumped into the term"Pit Bull". The websites that all the hater quote their stats from even states this. "The term pit bull is often used loosely to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics, and the morphological (physical) variation amongst "bully breed" dogs makes it difficult for anyone, even experts, to visually identify them as distinct from "non-pit bulls".[4][5][6] While mixed breed dogs are often labeled as "pit bulls" if they have certain physical characteristics such as a square shaped head or bulky body type,[7] visual identification of mixed breed dogs is not recommended by the scholarly community." From the same Wiki article that you got your info from. This is my point. The American Pit Bull Terrier is a separate and recognized Breed as are the Staffordshire Bull Terrier,and the American Staffordshire Terrier, so which one is doing all of the killing?
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: ridgestalker]
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03/05/15 02:33 PM
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I'd shoot em whatever ever they are. See what I mean, dont even know what a Pit looks like.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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03/05/15 02:36 PM
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They all look alike to me. Pretty sure I've killed one or more of each kind.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
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03/05/15 02:36 PM
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Anyone can defend Pits all they want. Yes, other breeds do attack and bite but the facts are that Pits kill over 3 times as many people than any other breed. Often these deaths are members of the family which raised them.
Fact is, very few of you have ever actually seen a Pit Bull(if it was even a Pit Bull) bite anyone much less been bitten yourself but I bet you you've been bitten by another breed or even a cat. Show us a picture of a "true" pit bull since all the news outlets and everyone here have never seen one..... Guess it's just the media spinning the news around when it's actually terrier/boxer....lab/boxer mixes doing all the mauling.... I'm just glad we have a pit bull expert amongst us to clear this up and set the record straight.... Guess all you got to do next is hit the airwaves of CNN and FOX to set the record straight..... I'm not saying that you cant tell a "true" Pit by looking at a picture of a dog that you already know is a true Pit, I am telling you exactly that you can't just look at a dog and determine that it is for sure a Pit Bull unless it's your dog. Sometime last year I posted a link to this very thing, a line up, if you will, of various dogs breeds and 80% couldn't correctly ID the American Pit Bull Terrier and that 80% was just over what would be statistically correct with just a blind guess. I had a Lab/Boxer mix that looked exactly like a pit Bull but didn't have an ounce of Pit Bull DNA. I currently have a Boston Terrier/Cocker Spaniel mix that I get asked all the time if she is a "baby Pit", again, not an ounce of Pit DNA. Nobody has to get on CNN or FOX News to "spin" anything, all one has to do is look. The CDC states on their site that they dont keep breed specific stats on Dog bites because it is, even in the eye of the best trained Veterinarian, impossible to know the breed without a DNA test. They use stats provided by "others", mainly the anti Pit Group at Dogbite.org who specifically said on their website that they use "other mixed breeds" in their Pit Bull stats. Those other breed, again listed on their site, are Boxers, Boxer/Lab mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier/Boxer mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier/Lab mix....etc But don't let silly things like facts sway you, go ahead and believe those Dog Breed Expert, Gum Shoe reporters for CNN, FOX News and the New York Times when they tell you that Old Lady Johnson saw a Pit Bull attack someone so it must be a Pit. Remember when CNN and the NYTimes told you if you like your insurance you can keep it, Period, and if you like your Doctor, you can keep them, Period. Im just gonna call bullchit on 80% can't look at a dog and determine its a pit.I would conservatively say maybe 10% but 80% is just another excuse by a pit lover.You saying that is no different than these so called made up %of attacks by pits on these "anti pit" websites.Show me a study that says 80% of Americans cant correctly identify a pit and I'll show you a made up number by pit lovers.That chit goes both ways.Post up the pics and see how many here get it right.I'd take a guess and say about 99% will get it right. You can call BS all you want. It aint my survey just one of many on the net. Both sides have their supporting surveys. I have already posted up the link on one of the several "the sky is falling with Pit Bulls raining down" threads and yes, it was close to 80% who could not ID a Pit from the list of several other breeds.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: leroycnbucks]
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03/05/15 02:37 PM
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Pit owners have a way with words!!! If you chicken little a would put this much effort into something worthwhile you could change the world for goodnes sales. What? What do you say?
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
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03/05/15 02:47 PM
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i'm pretty sure some of yall just aint shot the right guys dog yet and he know about it .
just shooting a dog for walking through your yard could get risking .
Aint none of them ever shot one. just big talk on the internet.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: JTapia]
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03/05/15 03:04 PM
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i'm pretty sure some of yall just aint shot the right guys dog yet and he know about it .
just shooting a dog for walking through your yard could get risking .
Aint none of them ever shot one. just big talk on the internet. they may shoot them but they asking for trouble they might not want . i've kill a few dogs but never for just walking through the yard or just for being on the land .
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
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03/05/15 03:09 PM
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I can go ahead and predict it now....this thread ain't gonna end good ..but the free entertainment is awesome  I see a few warnings, possibly a hammer or 2.. time will tell
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
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03/05/15 07:55 PM
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After reading this thread, is anyone surprised that obama got elected, , , twice? I hear ya brother. First thing I think of everytime I see one of these threads. Dang folks wanting to tax or kill anything they dont agree with and will believe anything anyone tells them as long as it fits their agenda and even if they know it's not the truth. If you like your doctor you can keep it. Benghazi was the result of protest against a video that got out of hand. Any dog that bites is a Pit Bull.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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03/06/15 01:59 AM
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LMAO
So far in this "battle of wits" you have compared a free thinking and unpredicatable animal to two inanimate objects, and told everyone how dangerous you are when it's obvious you are all mouth.
naw. try again. You might wanna read that post again. But thanks anyway cause you're rebuttal just proved my point. CHECKMATE!! I did read the post. You asked me if I felt we needed a tax stamp on a supressor or a tax on a crossbow because I felt they were dangerous. The answer is no because they are inanimate objects that can never hurt anyone without manipulation from a human being and therefore are NOT dangerous in and of themselves. In that case the human being is the root cause of the problem, not the tool or weapon, and that's a concept the libs will never understand. A dog, however is a free thnking, unpredicatable animal that can attack without provocation without any human interference. I hope that distinction isn't too difficult for you to comprehend. So you see, you haven't "checkmated" anything unless your goal was to prove to me you are biased in your argument. If so you "checkkmated" the hell out of that. I'm willing to concede that there are some cases of mistaken identity regarding the statistics but you are not willing to concede that even if there was a 40% fallout of data regarding mistaken identity, the pit is still far and away the top dog killer in the world. Like I said....... congrats to you if you have one with a good temperament and you never have any problems with it. You still are only looking at what's in your living room and not the overall picture. Also, oftentimes the one that barks the loudest about being "dangerous" or a "bad ass" is usualy the biggest pussy.
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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03/06/15 04:27 AM
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wasnt really comparing a dog to a crossbow, but making the point a $10,000 "permit fee" equating to a "tax stamp". But your point about a dog being a free thinking animal is not exactly accurate. My dog thinks like I want him to think and acts like I want him to act. The owner should start by getting a dog from a trusted breeder. A dogs genetics are important no matter what breed. #2 They should understand how a dog should be cared for. What the animal requires and make sure he gets those needs met. Just like with anything that has potential danger, there is no place for recklessness or carelessness. The biggest problem I have with this "situation" people are not understanding the real problem, and therefore the "problem" will not be solved. That is one reason for the reversal of breed specific legislation
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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03/06/15 04:48 AM
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My dog thinks like I want him to think and acts like I want him to act. LMAO!!! Dr. Doolittle
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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03/06/15 04:50 AM
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Your dog doesnt think shucks. That is the problem. It's a creature that eats it own poop and licks its own balls. You don't have control over it. wasnt really comparing a dog to a crossbow, but making the point a $10,000 "permit fee" equating to a "tax stamp". But your point about a dog being a free thinking animal is not exactly accurate. My dog thinks like I want him to think and acts like I want him to act. The owner should start by getting a dog from a trusted breeder. A dogs genetics are important no matter what breed. #2 They should understand how a dog should be cared for. What the animal requires and make sure he gets those needs met. Just like with anything that has potential danger, there is no place for recklessness or carelessness. The biggest problem I have with this "situation" people are not understanding the real problem, and therefore the "problem" will not be solved. That is one reason for the reversal of breed specific legislation
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Re: When a Pitt Bull attacks...
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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03/06/15 05:15 AM
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i have mind control over him, just like the media and goverment has mind control over you. So I see how this concept might be hard for some to understand.
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