That's the bs that is wrong with this country. Amazing enough the country is full of pusses that accept being treated like this. Sounds like an overstep of power by a gov official. Respect goes both ways.

Doekiller's silence is deafening. I imagine he sees no positive good from sharing his learned thoughts on the matter, and I don't blame him.

What do you mean here? People should understand that judges can behave this way because they are frustrated with certain elements of our crummy society? I would think judges should have free reign to kick whoever they want out of court such that they can conduct a smooth running, respectful, courtroom environment. But they should not be able to exact painful, punitive, detention at their whim. Holding someone in handcuffs for hours should be reserved for those that represent a physical threat or flight risk. Cuffs are not a punishing device.

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How are you gonna take a judge to trial? Much less, find another judge willing enough to piss in another one's sandbox? You're gonna have a line of attorneys ready to attempt to take down a judge. Not to mention one that sounds like he's "in" the system. Even if you do by chance win a lawsuit, you're gonna lose a lot more.

Chit a mobile county judge got away with spanking criminals!. He was found not guilty in court, but confessed in a behind closed door(Shortly after his trial) meeting that he did indeed spank prisoners. That just proves how crooked the system is imo..

First thread I read after being banned for two weeks and I can't even reply the way I want to for fear of being banned again.

What a crock of s***

This story is difficult to believe. Gotta be more to the story

Bull Pucky ...Be totally different if he was going before the judge or something but if he was just sitting in the gallery thats BS.
Be different if he walked in with his pants half off his azz, or at least gotten a warning to correct the issue before he was held in contempt and cuffed.

My wife said it's pretty common for judges to have dress codes in their courtroom. Although she did say arresting him was not the norm they usually send them home or make them leave the courtroom. She also said unless the judge instructed the bailiff to leave the cuffs on it usually up to the bailiffs (or other officer) to take the cuffs off.

Lot of pompous asshat judges out there. At least the ones in Autauga County are.

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If he speaks on behalf of the autonomy of the judiciary (supporting the judge), he will be attacked by a large segment of Aldeer posters as being part of the problem. I don't imagine he reads Aldeer to get our opinions of the legal system. On the other hand, if he thinks the judge is wrong and says so, he risks criticizing someone who he may have to practice law in front of someday. I don't know, but I imagine being critical of judges on social media is probably frowned upon by the BAR association. It's a no win situation for him, thus his silence.

Disclaimer: these are strictly my thoughts and am in no way speaking on behalf of our resident lawyer.

he WAS NOT arrested. He was ILLEGALLY detained. He was not cited, given mirnda...

10-4, gotcha. I understand what you mean now.

You've never been in them obviously

Sorry for the wrong word. You don't have to be arrested to be placed in cuffs. Yes his situation sounds wrong and I would be mad as hell too. He may have a case too.
Civil Contempt doesn't require an "arrest"
Call the Alabama Hammer

Karma is a real b###h. Hopefully he or his family will need the help of one of the people he treated like s### one day. Maybe he will get a dose of his own medicine on that day.



Agreed. A transgression that mild warrants a warning or perhaps being asked to leave the courtroom since he was not directly involved with the case. But locked in a holding cell and spending 6 hours in handcuffs for an untucked polo shirt is ridiculous. Just because you are in a position of authority where you can get away with doing something like that doesn't mean you are right in doing it.

No I havent. However, not sure what you meant. My point was that cuffs should not be used to intentionally make someone physically uncomfortable, or emotionally stressed. Especially without due process for the heinous crime of an untucked shirt. They ought to be used to detain flight risks or restrain knuckleheads from attacking, etc.

Biggest crock of chit i ever heard and i would blast your story on every news outlet and social media site i could.I read up on his sorry ass and seen hes an ex Special Agent for the Fbi and was elected after running unopposed.I understand Judges having strict guidelines about their courtroom but that was way outta line.I went to court a few weeks ago on a criminal trespass case against a guy we caught on our property.The judge came in and told everybody up front her rules.She told everybody that if they had a cellphone and she seen it she would take it and hold it for 24 hours.She also called one nasty girl out wearing spandex pants that looked like they were found in a garbage can and made her leave the courtroom.She came back in after about 10 minutes wearing different clothes.I really hate you had to go through that jmack.I dont see any way of sueing but I'd damn sure tell my story to people that he wouldnt want hearing it.