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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281635
02/28/15 06:19 PM
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Sounds like he felt you were in contempt.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: Clem] #1281638
02/28/15 06:21 PM
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I was sitting for just a few minutes before they cuffed me. I did get a bathroom break while still in cuffs. Worst day I have ever had...


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281645
02/28/15 06:24 PM
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I could understand tucking it in if you had a case.


Wait, I'm at a loss for clarity.

Were you actually in the courtroom and the judge, from the bench, said that you were to be cuffed and taken away?

Or were you outside in a hallway waiting on your friend?

I'm not trying to be difficult, but if you're in a courtroom the judge has discretion to set how things will be run in it. That includes apparel on anyone within the room, whether you are appearing before him with a case or sitting in the gallery. Saggin' pants, tucked-in shirts, no crude slogans on shirts, torn/ripped clothing, etc. It may suck but the judge can do that.

Again, not trying to be a hardass but whatever the judge determines goes for everyone in there. Not just those before the bench.

Still don't know if you were cuffed for six hours straight. If so, that's a serious problem deserving of further investigation.

Last edited by Clem; 02/28/15 06:26 PM.

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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281660
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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281662
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I think a warning would be in order first. If no warning, I think the judge is a grade A jack hole.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: Clem] #1281664
02/28/15 06:37 PM
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Was just in the courtroom and yes it was right at 6 hours in cuffs. I did not know that ever court can make their own rules, but I do now. I still think that its alittle overboard. I get bad muscle spasms due to nerve damage from all the surgeries I have had. That is still no excuse to treat me like a convict...


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: Remington270] #1281665
02/28/15 06:37 PM
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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281667
02/28/15 06:38 PM
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Some judges are jackholes. But they still can set requirements for apparel and decorum in their courtrooms, and each is different.


If you spent six hours in handcuffs merely for an untucked shirt contempt citation then you should be filing a formal complaint with someone in the Alabama Bar Association or whomever is over that judge. That's horsecrap.

Did he give you a warning, ask if you'd seen the sign outside the court or anything? No warning? Nothing? Just zipped you off in cuffs for six hours? Were you required to return to apologize to the court or anything or did they just turn you loose?



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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281668
02/28/15 06:38 PM
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There is a particular judge in baldwin county that says you have to have your shirt tucked in or he will put you in jail for contempt of court. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's his court room and he does what he wants.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: gatorbait154] #1281671
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Originally Posted By: gatorbait154
There is a particular judge in baldwin county that says you have to have your shirt tucked in or he will put you in jail for contempt of court. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's his court room and he does what he wants.


Well, that's apparently the one jmack66 ran into yesterday.


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: hunterbuck] #1281679
02/28/15 06:44 PM
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I have known some judges that will throw you out, or verbally discipline some one for inappropriate attire. However, I have never heard of one charging someone with contempt without a warning of some kind.

You ought to see the way some people come to court in Mobile District court. If the judges did that there, everyone would be locked up.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: bs295] #1281683
02/28/15 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: bs295
I have known some judges that will throw you out, or verbally discipline some one for inappropriate attire. However, I have never heard of one charging someone with contempt without a warning of some kind.

You ought to see the way some people come to court in Mobile District court. If the judges did that there, everyone would be locked up.


That is why mobile county is the way it is and Baldwin county is the way it is.

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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281694
02/28/15 06:51 PM
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If that is exactly how it happened, I would be in touch with a good attorney. If the attorney advised that nothing could be done from a lawsuit standpoint, then I would go to the news, social media, etc. and I would ruin that Judge's name. Hell, I'd go handout fliers in his neighborhood.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: hunterbuck] #1281697
02/28/15 06:57 PM
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Must be the same one... He said after this happened that a persons dress tells whaat kind of person you are. He dont know JACK about me and he is the one that showed his true colors..... I been through more in my life thats made me a better man than he will ever be.


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: gatorbait154] #1281704
02/28/15 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: gatorbait154
There is a particular judge in baldwin county that says you have to have your shirt tucked in or he will put you in jail for contempt of court. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's his court room and he does what he wants.
Actually it's the taxpayers courtroom. He just works there.

Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281706
02/28/15 07:03 PM
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He actually said he could determine a person's character by their clothing and/or way they dress?

Some, maybe. Not always. That's screwed up.

Did he give you a warning before having you removed? Were you required to return to apologize to the court or anything or did they just turn you loose?


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: Clem] #1281716
02/28/15 07:15 PM
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No warning and just finally turned me loose......


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: jmack66] #1281720
02/28/15 07:18 PM
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I would consult an attorney. That kind of shucks shouldn't fly, assuming everything is exactly how you presented it.

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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: toothdoc] #1281727
02/28/15 07:24 PM
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Actually it's the taxpayers courtroom. He just works there.
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Taxpayer? Yes. But the judge supervises it and sets the rules for decorum.

Would love to hear from some jurists and attorneys on here about this.


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Re: Lost Respect for our court... [Re: Clem] #1281747
02/28/15 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Actually it's the taxpayers courtroom. He just works there.
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Taxpayer? Yes. But the judge supervises it and sets the rules for decorum.

Would love to hear from some jurists and attorneys on here about this.
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