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Re: is it true? [Re: bigt] #1249770
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Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.



The 25% of the people can't help that the other 75% can't manage their property.

All I got to say to this comment is what a pile of CRAP....



What part is crap? Are you above carrying capacity for your property or below?


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249792
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I just like to deer hunt. I killed 4-5 does and two bucks this year we will eat these and probably run out before next year. I gave two of them to a family that lives down the street. I hunt to eat and the last thing I want is someone stepping and adding more regulations. We are just about regulated to death as it is. Not everyone hunts to kill bucks. A lot of us just hunt because we like to hunt.if you don't like the rules alabama has in place take your ass to another state and hunt.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249800
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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249805
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Re: is it true? [Re: Beadlescomb] #1249811
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
if you don't like the rules alabama has in place take your ass to another state and hunt.


I think that's the problem... They'd rather bitch about it here than do anything about it...


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Re: is it true? [Re: Beadlescomb] #1249821
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
I just like to deer hunt. I killed 4-5 does and two bucks this year we will eat these and probably run out before next year. I gave two of them to a family that lives down the street. I hunt to eat and the last thing I want is someone stepping and adding more regulations. We are just about regulated to death as it is. Not everyone hunts to kill bucks. A lot of us just hunt because we like to hunt.if you don't like the rules alabama has in place take your ass to another state and hunt.


What a short sighted comment. There are hunters all over the state saying the deer numbers are down, but you don't care. Bygod I'm going to kill 7 deer a year and nobody is going to tell me I can't.



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Re: is it true? [Re: Southwood7] #1249826
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Originally Posted By: Southwood7
Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
I just like to deer hunt. I killed 4-5 does and two bucks this year we will eat these and probably run out before next year. I gave two of them to a family that lives down the street. I hunt to eat and the last thing I want is someone stepping and adding more regulations. We are just about regulated to death as it is. Not everyone hunts to kill bucks. A lot of us just hunt because we like to hunt.if you don't like the rules alabama has in place take your ass to another state and hunt.


What a short sighted comment. There are hunters all over the state saying the deer numbers are down, but you don't care. Bygod I'm going to kill 7 deer a year and nobody is going to tell me I can't.


Areas all over the state, but NOT the whole state, that's what some of us have a problem with. Those that can't see deer for what ever reason got the season changed for the whole state. I got a problem with that, sorry.



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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249835
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Re: is it true? [Re: globe] #1249836
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Originally Posted By: globe
God all mighty! It's all about limiting my neighbor to get what I want.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Beadlescomb] #1249848
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
I just like to deer hunt. I killed 4-5 does and two bucks this year we will eat these and probably run out before next year. I gave two of them to a family that lives down the street. I hunt to eat and the last thing I want is someone stepping and adding more regulations. We are just about regulated to death as it is. Not everyone hunts to kill bucks. A lot of us just hunt because we like to hunt.if you don't like the rules alabama has in place take your ass to another state and hunt.
in 10 yrs when there isn't no deer in the state of Alabama anymore I hope you ain't the first to cry about it and be the first to go out of state to hunt. If it stays the way it is now in 10years we won't have any deer


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249883
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I hope this doesn't come across as a smart-alec response, it's not my intent:

Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them. Based on my personal feelings, I'd rather they close doe harvest OR put a small limit on them, but it's not a hill I'd die on. Where I hunt we've been able to kill a buck and TWO DOES PER DAY, but other than one or two with my bow each year, I haven't killed a doe with a gun in who knows when...maybe 8-10 years. We seem to have a plentiful population, but I simply do not believe in overpopulation of free-range deer in Alabama's climate and abundance of food. It's just each fella's opinion, but I see zero reason for killing does unless I just want one to eat, or because it's a ball to flonk one with an arra!


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Re: is it true? [Re: Beadlescomb] #1249909
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I hunt to eat and the last thing I want is someone stepping and adding more regulations. We are just about regulated to death as it is. Not everyone hunts to kill bucks. A lot of us just hunt because we like to hunt.


Amen, Beadle.


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Re: is it true? [Re: ikillbux] #1249913
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Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them.


Which is exactly the way it should be, and used to be.

Voluntary choice. Educate yourself. Decide what's best for your land, possibly in concert with a biologist or on DMAP or however you choose.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Clem] #1249924
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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them.


Which is exactly the way it should be, and used to be.

Voluntary choice. Educate yourself. Decide what's best for your land, possibly in concert with a biologist or on DMAP or however you choose.


You are seriously overestimating both the intelligence and trigger control of the vast majority of the alabama population. Fact is most of us that post here don't need the regulation to tell us how to properly manage our properties. It's for the hoi polloi, many of which are cold blooded deer killers with no restraint or any idea how their lack of trigger control effects nearly everyone aroun them.

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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them.


Which is exactly the way it should be, and used to be.

Voluntary choice. Educate yourself. Decide what's best for your land, possibly in concert with a biologist or on DMAP or however you choose.





The whole "It's my land so I should be able to kill all the deer I want" argument is totally 100% bogus with the exception of high-fenced properties. deer roam. Unless you've got them penned up or you have a massive piece of property (Thousands of acres), "your" deer are most likely "someone else's" deer too. I'm not necessarily arguing for or against additional regulation, because I'm simply not educated enough on the matter to make an educated decision, but THAT argument doesn't hold water.

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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249939
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Every area is different from WMA's to farmland. Ever noticed you see more deer in a some suburbs than in managment areas? Each area has unique needs. Hardwoods are only good for acorns no acorns no food. Clearcuts are best first five years after replanting unless there are open areas. Burning can create deer browse otherwise not available. What do you have for the deer to eat and how much?
I have seen more food in one acre of planted pines with open areas than 50 acres of hardwoods with no acorns that year. If we had pines planted with open rows a certain way to allow vegetation to grow we have more food then more deer. White oaks usualy only produce acorns every three years. Water oaks generally are less preferred, but produce acorns every year. How many water oaks do you see on a WMA?
Just saying quality land managment should be related to quota of deer taken in that immediate area.

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Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
Originally Posted By: Clem
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Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them.


Which is exactly the way it should be, and used to be.

Voluntary choice. Educate yourself. Decide what's best for your land, possibly in concert with a biologist or on DMAP or however you choose.





The whole "It's my land so I should be able to kill all the deer I want" argument is totally 100% bogus with the exception of high-fenced properties. deer roam. Unless you've got them penned up or you have a massive piece of property (Thousands of acres), "your" deer are most likely "someone else's" deer too. I'm not necessarily arguing for or against additional regulation, because I'm simply not educated enough on the matter to make an educated decision, but THAT argument doesn't hold water.


It's no more bogus that the "I'm not seeing as many deer as I think I should, and it's my neighbors' fault, so everyone must be regulated to meet my satisfaction" argument.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249974
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Alright, how about we go back to the old days then, when alabama was trying to INCREASE the population. A buck a day and 2-3 doe days a year when the population was DOWN is what it was. I'm SURE everybody would love to go backwards in the deer management area.


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Re: is it true? [Re: dirkdaddy] #1249986
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Originally Posted By: dirkdaddy
Originally Posted By: Clem
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Just because it's lawful doesn't mean I have to kill them.


Which is exactly the way it should be, and used to be.

Voluntary choice. Educate yourself. Decide what's best for your land, possibly in concert with a biologist or on DMAP or however you choose.


You are seriously overestimating both the intelligence and trigger control of the vast majority of the alabama population. Fact is most of us that post here don't need the regulation to tell us how to properly manage our properties. It's for the hoi polloi, many of which are cold blooded deer killers with no restraint or any idea how their lack of trigger control effects nearly everyone aroun them.

Unfortunately he is completely accurate with this. I know folks who will shoot way more than they're allowed just because they can. How many people have y'all seen that will shoot one cut the tenderloin out and trash the rest. They're are some sorry ass hunters if you want to call them that in this world. The last two clubs I was in before my current one were train wrecks. They would kill anything that moved and the deer population showed. I don't think I saw 20 deer a year in either of them. Heck I started hunting public land and saw three times as many deer every year as those clubs. We've gone way overboard in some areas of the state but in others there are still plenty of deer. One size fits all never works when human nature is involved. That's the reason you have to have some state regulation to keep a few deer around.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249988
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I guess everyone realizes that with prescribed doe days you could still fill your freezer. You'll just need to plan your vacation time accordingly. Do you want bucks or do you want meat for the freezer? With doe days you guys with overpopulation could smack down 20 does in a two week period, no problem.

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