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Re: is it true? [Re: Clem] #1249342
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Originally Posted By: Clem

Going to a limit would push more people to get into DMAP, which the DCNR has pushed aggressively.

If y'all want more government control and restriction of what you can do on your land, just keep pushing for a yearly limit on does to go along with the one on bucks. Before long some of y'all will be wanting 3 does and 1 buck and all the "because no one NEEDS more than ..." bullcrap.

It's amazing how many folks want government to leave them alone until it come s to deer hunting and then they don't mind the restrictions, and actually ask for them.


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I want as little government control as possible. I only kill what I need for meat. The problem isn't limits or days it's hunters who want to kill just because they can. I've known several who would kill deer with no use for them and then beg someone to take them off their hands. I don't care if you use 1 deer or 12 every year as long as you are using what you kill. IMHO people who just want to kill for the thrill give hunters a bad name.

Re: is it true? [Re: R_H_Clark] #1249348
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Clem

Going to a limit would push more people to get into DMAP, which the DCNR has pushed aggressively.

If y'all want more government control and restriction of what you can do on your land, just keep pushing for a yearly limit on does to go along with the one on bucks. Before long some of y'all will be wanting 3 does and 1 buck and all the "because no one NEEDS more than ..." bullcrap.

It's amazing how many folks want government to leave them alone until it come s to deer hunting and then they don't mind the restrictions, and actually ask for them.


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I want as little government control as possible. I only kill what I need for meat. The problem isn't limits or days it's hunters who want to kill just because they can. I've known several who would kill deer with no use for them and then beg someone to take them off their hands. I don't care if you use 1 deer or 12 every year as long as you are using what you kill. IMHO people who just want to kill for the thrill give hunters a bad name.


I give a lot away, no way I could use all the deer I take off our place. My property, I have a good feel of how many need killed and I give most away. I'm not breaking any laws and the folks that get them seem mighty happy. I don't get a thrill out of shooting does, it's necessary work.

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Re: is it true? [Re: 2Dogs] #1249358
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Clem

Going to a limit would push more people to get into DMAP, which the DCNR has pushed aggressively.

If y'all want more government control and restriction of what you can do on your land, just keep pushing for a yearly limit on does to go along with the one on bucks. Before long some of y'all will be wanting 3 does and 1 buck and all the "because no one NEEDS more than ..." bullcrap.

It's amazing how many folks want government to leave them alone until it come s to deer hunting and then they don't mind the restrictions, and actually ask for them.


X2
I want as little government control as possible. I only kill what I need for meat. The problem isn't limits or days it's hunters who want to kill just because they can. I've known several who would kill deer with no use for them and then beg someone to take them off their hands. I don't care if you use 1 deer or 12 every year as long as you are using what you kill. IMHO people who just want to kill for the thrill give hunters a bad name.


I give a lot away, no way I could use all the deer taken off our place. My property, I have a good feel of how many need killed and I give most away. I'm not breaking any laws and the folks that get them seem mighty happy.


He'll let me come down and shoot a couple. I don't have enough density to put 2-3 in the freezer so I usually go without. I would love to have a place to go and strictly shoot a couple does, no bucks. The problem is finding a place like that.

Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249593
02/01/15 05:34 PM
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Just because you have a doe per day season doesn't mean you have to kill one every day. I havn't shot a doe in 3 or 4 years, although I could have shot a truck full.

Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249598
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Wiley, IMO they screwed the pooch last year with GameCheck and now we still have the voluntary system, which ain't worth two toots.

Get it in place and get it rolling, or we'll pretty much have what we have now. DCNR should get it right this time, though.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249609
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We will see how it works on the WMAs going to QDMA and very limited doe hunts. Chocoloc and Hollins should have a pile of does and big bucks in the next 3 to 5 yrs in theory.

Re: is it true? [Re: Clem] #1249610
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Originally Posted By: Clem

Wiley, IMO they screwed the pooch last year with GameCheck and now we still have the voluntary system, which ain't worth two toots.

Get it in place and get it rolling, or we'll pretty much have what we have now. DCNR should get it right this time, though.


And this year made the WHOLE state 1 doe a day, when they had zones set up with different days and never gave them a chance. crazy



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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249613
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One thing to remember is that the State owns all of the wild deer in Alabama. I am old enough to remember when no one could shoot does.
Imho it is time to limit the doe harvest. We have over corrected and now need to back off for awhile to let the population recover. I might shoot A doe, but I am hunting bucks next year.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Megatrondiablo] #1249624
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A common sense approach that works best for you property is the best answer. But unfortunately there are a lot of hunters in this state that wouldn't know common sense if it came up and bit them in the ass. So the majority of us hunter will eventually suffer either through more rules and regulations or less deer sightings because of the ones that just don't give a damn about anybody else but themselves. Maybe a written test before you can buy a license would help. Probably just a spelling test would eliminate the I kill every deer I see hunters.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249626
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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249641
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I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.



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Re: is it true? [Re: Southwood7] #1249646
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Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.



The 25% of the people can't help that the other 75% can't manage their property.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Southwood7] #1249648
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Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.


Post of the year Southwood. I think that pretty much sums up the way a lot of us feel.

Re: is it true? [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1249654
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
. I'd like to skulldrag every damn moron that thinks killing 90% of the does is a good thing.


Dang Wiley, you getting soft? No hot coals involved?

Re: is it true? [Re: N2TRKYS] #1249655
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.



The 25% of the people can't help that the other 75% can't manage their property.
your arrogance re: deer numbers in this state is astounding and knows no bounds.

Re: is it true? [Re: leroycnbucks] #1249677
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
A common sense approach that works best for you property is the best answer. But unfortunately there are a lot of hunters in this state that wouldn't know common sense if it came up and bit them in the ass. So the majority of us hunter will eventually suffer either through more rules and regulations or less deer sightings because of the ones that just don't give a damn about anybody else but themselves. Maybe a written test before you can buy a license would help. Probably just a spelling test would eliminate the I kill every deer I see hunters.


I agree


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Re: is it true? [Re: judge sharpe] #1249688
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Originally Posted By: judge sharpe
WE have over corrected and now need to back off for awhile to let the population recover.


Who is we? You... or as in "we" the state?

I don't need any "we" to tell me how to manage our property... Maybe you or we whoever your talking about needs more regulation... But "we" see plenty of deer and manage how we see fit to preserve our population... If everyone else would do the same people wouldn't need help from the government... Too much damn government regulation as it is and some people keep asking for more rather than taking the chit into their own hands... Starting to sound more like democratic hunting rather than hunting... Everyone wants the government to do everything for them... It's bad enough the country is going to hell in a hand basket... Don't let them do the same to hunting... Damn....just damn....


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Re: is it true? [Re: N2TRKYS] #1249696
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.



The 25% of the people can't help that the other 75% can't manage their property.

All I got to say to this comment is what a pile of CRAP....


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Re: is it true? [Re: desertdog] #1249697
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Originally Posted By: desertdog
Originally Posted By: Southwood7
I know one thing, the voice is getting pretty loud from the "people" that we aren't seeing deer and something has to change. And for the couple of guys that are crying about needing to kill more does, you don't have my sympathy. Why do you HAVE to kill them? Do you have browse line in your woods? Does seeing 10 does every time you hunt make you angry? Kill the does if you want/need to but don't tell the other 75% of the state where the deer population is declining that something doesn't need to be done. Now that is selfish.


Post of the year Southwood. I think that pretty much sums up the way a lot of us feel.


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Re: is it true? [Re: Deerslyer86] #1249706
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we don't have a problem, we manage our own property but I will say the doe a day rule is killing most of the state as far as deer numbers. why would they have such a dumb limit, I guess just to sell licenses or to compete with Mississippi fjor license sales. License sales far out weigh the need to keep a high deer population and with all the cutting of the hardwoods and planting of pines in a few years we may not have any deer.

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