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Killing Doe question #1244236 01/28/15 12:53 PM 01/28/15 12:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co EarlPitts OP 8 point
EarlPitts OP 8 point Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co	I have a lease in Dayton Al. We don't pressure it at all. The club next door shoots a lot. So I ask my neighbor and says he's heard that each member has to kill 5 doe before can shoot a buck. Seems crazy to me especially since there LO has cut lots of their timber. Does that seen to be too many. The herd down here isn't what it use to be

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244295 01/28/15 01:58 PM 01/28/15 01:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 21,783 USA R Remington270 Freak of Nature
Remington270 Freak of Nature R Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 21,783 USA	Yep that's too many.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244336 01/28/15 02:33 PM 01/28/15 02:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,342 mobile C charlie 12 point
charlie 12 point C Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,342 mobile	Not enough info to know. How much land? How many members? What's the deer population? Maybe it's too many, can't say. If they are able to kill that many there must be a lot of deer there.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244390 01/28/15 03:15 PM 01/28/15 03:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co EarlPitts OP 8 point
EarlPitts OP 8 point Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co	Speaking the LO in area they say it's nowhere near what it use to be. They have aprox 1300 acres with aprox 10 members

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244414 01/28/15 03:24 PM 01/28/15 03:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,074 Glendale, FL W WhiteCityHunter 6 point
WhiteCityHunter 6 point W Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,074 Glendale, FL	50 does on 1300 acres, holy crap!! That's way too many. I seriously doubt they are killing that many does. Not sure what the density numbers would be but it's got to be off the chart. I hunt on 4000 acres and we kill maybe 25-30 and we have a good population. Last edited by WhiteCityHunter; 01/28/15 03:25 PM.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: WhiteCityHunter] #1244441 01/28/15 03:34 PM 01/28/15 03:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 199 Pelham, AL H Hammerdown 3 point
Hammerdown 3 point H Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 199 Pelham, AL	Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter 50 does on 1300 acres, holy crap!! That's way too many. I seriously doubt they are killing that many does. Not sure what the density numbers would be but it's got to be off the chart. I hunt on 4000 acres and we kill maybe 25-30 and we have a good population. X2. I am no expert but I would think the same.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244487 01/28/15 03:58 PM 01/28/15 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there C Clem Mildly Quirky
Clem Mildly Quirky C Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there	Maybe they just want fewer deer on their land. "Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter "Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013 "Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: Clem] #1244508 01/28/15 04:05 PM 01/28/15 04:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th... mike35549 12 point
mike35549 12 point Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...	Originally Posted By: Clem Maybe they just want fewer deer on their land. If that is the goal that will definitely get it done. If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244563 01/28/15 04:27 PM 01/28/15 04:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,621 Clanton Turkey_neck Booner
Turkey_neck Booner Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,621 Clanton	We have 10-11,000 acres and have only killed around 50 does the last two years. So yes they're killing way too many does. Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244581 01/28/15 04:32 PM 01/28/15 04:32 PM
M Matt Brock Unregistered
Matt Brock Unregistered M	They may not be killing too many. I've seen properties that could sustain doe harvests that high. It all depends on soil productivity, habitat quality, and fawn recruitment.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244585 01/28/15 04:32 PM 01/28/15 04:32 PM
M Matt Brock Unregistered
Matt Brock Unregistered M	I would question whether they actually have to kill 5 does.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244628 01/28/15 04:44 PM 01/28/15 04:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,584 Coosa County, AL Coosa1 SOA Professional
Coosa1 SOA Professional Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,584 Coosa County, AL	They might actually have that many deer, one of the places I hunted this year the landowner wanted to kill 35 does off of it. Its only a 1000 acre tract and every time I went I saw a minimum of 20 does. Killed 8 for him so far. So it's possible.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244874 01/29/15 02:28 AM 01/29/15 02:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 5,651 Lincoln, Alabama B blumsden 12 point
blumsden 12 point B Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 5,651 Lincoln, Alabama	If their property is a doe sink, then there are doe deer from adjoining properties standing in line to get on that property. We used to kill 10-12 doe's off 236 acres, and never could tell a difference in the doe density.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1244998 01/29/15 04:34 AM 01/29/15 04:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,316 Cherokee Co. Al. B bgarrett 8 point
bgarrett 8 point B Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,316 Cherokee Co. Al.	Now that is what is called hunting pressure.... It's not a Passion, it's an Obsession. That's what I tell my wife, but she promptly informs it's a disease to which is incurable.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1245143 01/29/15 06:17 AM 01/29/15 06:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co EarlPitts OP 8 point
EarlPitts OP 8 point Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290 Pickens Co	Hunted one of my GFs joining them yesterday. This field use to fill up with 20 to 30 deer in an afternoon 10 to 15 years ago. Yesterday I see two yearling spikes and zero doe. Early in the year we may see 5 or 6 doe now none. We shot one coyote in this stand and a 7 point buck. We took one doe early in bow season. That's it. Hardly no pressure. Im like most of you, I can't see how they could be killing that many doe even if they had 3000 or more acres. Guess I'm sort of frustrated to be paying a high lease amount and not see many deer.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1245196 01/29/15 07:09 AM 01/29/15 07:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 18,841 . F ford150man Old Mossy Horns
ford150man Old Mossy Horns F Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 18,841 .	I remember hunting Dallas County back in the 90's when the laws changed allowing does to be killed all season long. This was during a time when you couldn't sling a dead cat in the woods without hitting a doe. We had 964 acres and killed about 35-38 does in one season. We probably could have killed 50. The next season, we killed about the same amount. The third season we only killed about 18-20. By the fourth season we were down to about 12-15. All the time Gulf States was telling us we weren't killing enough does. By the fifth season we killed less than 10 does off of 964 acres. If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: ford150man] #1245499 01/29/15 11:00 AM 01/29/15 11:00 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,914 Pine Hill, Al T Todd1700 12 point
Todd1700 12 point T Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,914 Pine Hill, Al	Quote: All the time Gulf States was telling us we weren't killing enough does. By the fifth season we killed less than 10 does off of 964 acres. Ah come on Ford. Those reduced deer sightings were probably just due to one of your neighbors putting out some dreaded evil corn that instantly made all the deer in the area go nocturnal. You can never shoot too many does. The above message brought to you by Alfa insurance where our motto is, "Deer, Kill All the Mother######s Before our Clients Do It with a Car." The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: ford150man] #1245790 01/29/15 03:21 PM 01/29/15 03:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th... mike35549 12 point
mike35549 12 point Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...	Originally Posted By: ford150man I remember hunting Dallas County back in the 90's when the laws changed allowing does to be killed all season long. This was during a time when you couldn't sling a dead cat in the woods without hitting a doe. We had 964 acres and killed about 35-38 does in one season. We probably could have killed 50. The next season, we killed about the same amount. The third season we only killed about 18-20. By the fourth season we were down to about 12-15. All the time Gulf States was telling us we weren't killing enough does. By the fifth season we killed less than 10 does off of 964 acres. This happened in a lot of places in south AL. I know a cpl places where they had to go get jaw bones from the processor because they reached a point where they could not kill the number of does that was required by the land owner. Pure insanity! If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: EarlPitts] #1245835 01/29/15 03:47 PM 01/29/15 03:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 19,663 Pelham Ben2 Old Mossy Horns
Ben2 Old Mossy Horns Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 19,663 Pelham	We are gonna light up some does tomorrow!!

Re: Killing Doe question [Re: mike35549] #1245963 01/29/15 04:49 PM 01/29/15 04:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there C Clem Mildly Quirky
Clem Mildly Quirky C Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there	Quote: By the fifth season we killed less than 10 does off of 964 acres. Because y'all slowed down on your own, or did the deer become more wary due to the pressure? "Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter "Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013 "Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020

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