They shouldn't have to join a state program to manage their property as they see fit.

That is not necessarily a true statement.....

It is not true for most people that hunt there own property.

I love these threads the I don't want any restrictions let me manage my deer the way I want, I wonder how many of those folks have a 10' fence around there property because if not they are not your deer. On the other end is the lets just kill 1 buck per person with 2 weeks of gun season there is no way you can kill enough deer in 2 weeks in AL to control the population.
As usual the people with a little common sense prevail and we are somewhere in the middle.

What does everyone think the limit should be overall including season length . I think 2 buck and 2 doe. Season stays the same length but archery only untill January . What say you??

There are as many MATURE bucks in AL's population as any other state. Having hunted a couple of Midwestern states several times, there are no more mature deer to see and hunt than there are here. I'd actually be willing to bet if you looked at the population as a whole in our state vs most Midwestern states we would have a higher number of mature bucks. They have lower populations, a much higher winter mortality, and their annual harvests, just like what jlcoffee posted, has an incredibly high number of immature deer killed. AL does not produce HUGE deer like the Midwest, and it never will, regardless of antler regs, or annual bag limits. It's just a FACT.

The three buck limit is doing what it was intended to do. It's allowing more bucks to enter the population, resulting in more mature bucks, lowering antlered deer harvests, and increasing antlerless harvests. It has been a great thing from the areas I am familiar with. Decreasing the antlered bag limit is not going to happen. Limiting people to 2 does is almost borderline absurd.

I'm really at a loss for words. Everybody wants the state to change something for them, yet you see from the voluntary gamecheck system that people are not participating in letting us biologist know what is going on. If you aren't calling in your deer, then you shouldn't have a say. Kind of like voting. If you don't vote, your opinion on the matter is invalid.

How can one persons opinion upset some of ya'll so bad?

Couple of farmers have already told me, if the state don't want them killed in the fall, we'll do it in the summer. And I know several that will.

If you aren't calling in your deer, then you shouldn't have a say. Kind of like voting. If you don't vote, your opinion on the matter is invalid.

Hmmm

Says who? You? How and why?

If I have 3,000 or 5,000 acres and believe I need to kill 20 bucks, and I don't want to bring in five other hunters to fill their 'tags,' then I damn sure shouldn't be told by anyone what I "need" to be doing on my land.


I currently hunt on some land on which my cameras have taken photos of bucks with truly messed-up antlers. I have photos of multiple bucks with screwed-up antlers. It's not just one or two. I've talked with hunters in the area who have seen similar bucks. I'd like to shoot every damned one of them but because of our "tag" and requirements, I cannot. Legally, of course. And I realize that buck genes are only half the equation so that means some does probably need to be whacked.

Yet with some folks saying "Oh, you don't need to shoot more than X-number of deer a season!" and getting that BS pushed through that affects private landowners, it can and does have an effect on people who might genuinely need to do something. Which means you can hunt legally and keep having problems or violate the laws/regs to get done what you need to get done.

Don't jump to convulsions, they get depredation permits. Were getting them when the limit was 2 a day, just sayin'.

If you have that big of a problem with deer plant some corn and get a ag license to kill what ever you would like.

Dropping to 1 doe/day is hurting some folks.