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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1193886
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Wasn't there another member here that just went through this same situation with his son and a few other teens? Accused by a retired sheriff, warden, LEO, etc of shooting an AR at night from a vehicle and plead not guilty in court? I tried finding the thread but not having much luck.

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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: hammerhead] #1193887
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Originally Posted By: hammerhead
Wasn't there another member here that just went through this same situation with his son and a few other teens? Accused by a retired sheriff, warden, LEO, etc of shooting an AR at night from a vehicle and plead not guilty in court? I tried finding the thread but not having much luck.


Found it...
Anybody have a similar experience ??

Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1193906
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I hope they take into consideration that this isn't his first rodeo and charge him as an adult. Could be the best thing that ever happened to him.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: ford150man] #1194031
12/20/14 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: ford150man
I hope they take into consideration that this isn't his first rodeo and charge him as an adult. Could be the best thing that ever happened to him.


In order to charge him as an adult, he has to have a transfer hearing from Juvie court. No way this charge gets transferred.

Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: ford150man] #1194050
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Originally Posted By: ford150man
I hope they take into consideration that this isn't his first rodeo and charge him as an adult. Could be the best thing that ever happened to him.


Could be the worst too. 3-4k dollars to a kid that age could seem like an impossible feat. It's not anything the legal system can fix. He's the only person that can fix it. Nobody can make him do it by fines, boot up his ass, or jail time. Might be catalysts, but not his saving grace.

Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194077
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Look night hunting is illegal plain and simple. It is also dangerous I do not care if they are my grandsons and get caught breaking the law throw the book at them and it will make men out of them. They know the law.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: pab] #1194088
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I am taking a wild guess and saying his name is not "Drew" please say it is not Drew.



LMAO hell no


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: hammerhead] #1194094
12/20/14 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: hammerhead
Originally Posted By: hammerhead
Wasn't there another member here that just went through this same situation with his son and a few other teens? Accused by a retired sheriff, warden, LEO, etc of shooting an AR at night from a vehicle and plead not guilty in court? I tried finding the thread but not having much luck.


Found it...
Anybody have a similar experience ??


This is a waaay different situation, this kid and his posse were caught shooting at a decoy early Friday AM by a GW. Ring leader confessed to shooting a big buck a few nights ago also.



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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: CaptKirk] #1194101
12/20/14 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: CaptKirk
How about not worrying about it and daddy sticking a foot so far up his arse that the sweat of his knee quenches that boys thirst? I mean twice, he does not need to get off lightly .


Info I have daddy needs ass kickin' too. Acorn don't fall too far from the tree, if ya know what I mean.



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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194169
12/20/14 04:27 PM
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I do know a 16 year old up here in TN lost his license privilege for life a few years back after about his 10 offense.

GW said the judge was tired of seeing him and told him next time he would go inside for a year in juvi.


BTR Scorer in NW Alabama

Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194307
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If he's old enough to be required to purchase a license, just like an adult, and abide by the same laws as an adult, then he's old enough to pay the same fines, lose privileges, firearms, etc... just like an adult.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: ford150man] #1194410
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Originally Posted By: ford150man
If he's old enough to be required to purchase a license, just like an adult, and abide by the same laws as an adult, then he's old enough to pay the same fines, lose privileges, firearms, etc... just like an adult.


I like it, but doubt it'll turn out that way.



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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194413
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These kids need to realize that they are making mistakes that WILL follow them the rest of their lives!!!

I have a young friend who recently found that out the hard way!!

He is 24 yrs old and got a job offer from a large Paper Mill (GP). He passed everything and submitted to their background check. It came back and he was not eligible for hire!! He had been arrested for Night Hunting and discharging a firearms from a Public ROW a couple of days after his 18th birthday. He did not submit this on his application and did not realize it was considered an 'arrest'. Normally, in those type of situations, they will allow you to re-submit your info and tell you that you need to be sure to include ALL citations....giving you the opportunity to correct your mistake or 'tell the truth. BUT, in this case, with the Company doing the background check being from the great liberal State of California, he was denied that opportunity. Their stance was that since it was a 'Gun Crime'; they had a zero-tolerance policy!!!

Times are changing boys!
And, you better teach your children this before they make a mistake that will literally cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars!!!!

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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194446
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If u can't do the time, don't do the crime. No sympathy for youthful offenders. All that does is enable them to continue committing crimes. Hit him and the parents hard in the wallet, that seems to do the trick. Also ban him from hunting for 5 years or so.

Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194466
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Officer Lindsey is as good as they come. Hope they justly penalize the kid and he learns from his wrong doings.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: WhiteCityHunter] #1194531
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Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
If u can't do the time, don't do the crime. No sympathy for youthful offenders. All that does is enable them to continue committing crimes. Hit him and the parents hard in the wallet, that seems to do the trick. Also ban him from hunting for 5 years or so.


Why make his parents pay for the mistake??? I know ALOT of brothers and sisters, that grew up in the same house and had fine people as parents, but one turned out a sorry POS.. Raised in the same house, whooped by the same belt.. Just two different kids turned out different.. SO why fine the parents??


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: daniel white] #1194614
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Like the saying goes " you can't fix stupid " but you can dang sure let him know it's expensive.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: 2Dogs] #1194621
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Seems to me you make the fine equal to the vehicle that they were driving & gun that they were using.

Then auction it off.


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Re: AlabamaYouthful offender / night hunting question [Re: daniel white] #1194624
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Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
If u can't do the time, don't do the crime. No sympathy for youthful offenders. All that does is enable them to continue committing crimes. Hit him and the parents hard in the wallet, that seems to do the trick. Also ban him from hunting for 5 years or so.


Why make his parents pay for the mistake??? I know ALOT of brothers and sisters, that grew up in the same house and had fine people as parents, but one turned out a sorry POS.. Raised in the same house, whooped by the same belt.. Just two different kids turned out different.. SO why fine the parents??
Well we find some common ground! grin I have to say I 100% agree with DW this time. I myself was a great hell raises as a child. I had a mother that played the organ for church and a head decon for a father. MANY a belt was wore out on me. I have a LONG arrest record. DUIs, PIs, Assults and so on. Point is why should my parent have been made to pay?? Heck my first arrests of Promoton to Gamble was at 17. I have pleaded youthful offender as a you man. PArents of do the best they can with children AND they still turn out bad . But some finnally get on the proper path. Point is EVERONE makes mistakes. AND some get Youthful Offender Charges and turn their lives around. I dont think we should permitly brand our youth for a couple of bad choices. Rant over. I got to get dressed for church! thumbup

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