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Obama bends over again. Cuba. #1190734
12/17/14 04:22 PM
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It will take years to undo what the pussy-in-chief has done to our country. I probably won't see it in my lifetime.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190753
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Dislike most of Obama's policies, but applaud this Cuba move.

I'd like to buy some cigars and maybe vacation down there. The Europeans vacation there plenty.

Last edited by N_AL_Slugger; 12/17/14 04:35 PM.
Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: N_AL_Slugger] #1190783
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Originally Posted By: N_AL_Slugger
Dislike most of Obama's policies, but applaud this Cuba move.

I'd like to buy some cigars and maybe vacation down there. The Europeans vacation there plenty.


Some of the best beaches in the Caribbean. You can get there now you just have to go through another country first.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190797
12/17/14 04:53 PM
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He is dealing with a murderous , communist regime that supports terrorism because they are the model for what he wants us to become. He isn't doing it out of weakness and it isn't going to be good for our country. He will be able to sell it, though, because many are too ignorant to recognize it is evil dealing with evil.


"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190825
12/17/14 05:03 PM
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I think this should have been done years ago.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190827
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That's what we need another place we can put on welfare.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190891
12/17/14 05:43 PM
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What difference will lifting the embargo make to the people of Cuba?
What happens to the financial aid we give to other dictatorial regimes? The regime reaps the benefits and the people stay oppressed and poor. What good will come from helping a regime that is actively involved in sponsoring terrorism? It sounds real nice and humane but what real world results will the Cuban people see?


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1190976
12/17/14 07:55 PM
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Putin is loving this deal the Kenyan made today.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1191092
12/18/14 03:29 AM
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Obama was just born just at the Bay of Pigs And I sure some if not most on here don't know about what was taking place at that time. Look it up! You don't make deals with Communist they are as bad as ISSA. You conquer!

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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1191119
12/18/14 03:52 AM
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If you talk to some real Cubans you will think differently. Basically, there are two kinds of Cubans, those who work for the Communist party and those who do not. The one's who do not are the one's who run here for a fair shot at life. This move by Obama just shows that he approves of a Communist dictatorial way of doing things.


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1191154
12/18/14 04:24 AM
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China = communist. We have free trade and travel with them, borrow $$$ from them, and nobody complains.

Russia = use to be commies (arguably still are by practical standards) and were the ones loading the ammo up in Cuba. We have free trade and travel with them.

Cuba = was a small pawn in the USSR's machine (just like Ukraine) yet we've shunned them due to their proximity to our border. Perhaps having a real working relationship with the people of Cuba will win them over to becoming allies instead of enemies.


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1191156
12/18/14 04:26 AM
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Japan = ACTUALLY BOMBED U.S. SOIL, yet we trade/travel with them like nobody's business.

How many people on this forum sing praises of their Toyotas?


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1191166
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Chinese people are still moving here in droves for a fair shot at life because they have no options under the Communist regime. Bush Sr, Clinton, and the others have allowed Corporate Capitalism which relies on slave wage labor to grow in China. By doing this with Cuba, the Obama regime is just showing that they want the same type of government here where regular people do not have options, only those who are loyal to the party have a decent shot at life.


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Gig] #1191180
12/18/14 04:47 AM
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of course he does. we should all just assume he will do the craziest thing possible and be about our business. only report things he does that arent crazy......which would be about once every two years or so.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: HippieKiller] #1191213
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
Japan = ACTUALLY BOMBED U.S. SOIL, yet we trade/travel with them like nobody's business.

How many people on this forum sing praises of their Toyotas?


We conquered the Japanese and MADE them see the error of their ways. Toyota's are damn near 100% American manufactured now. Sure some of the profit goes back to Japan, as it should. In the other hand, we have not conquered Russia or China.

When was the last time YOU refused to buy something made in China?

Obama is going to do everything he can in his last days to destroy the very fabric of the existence of this country. It WILL get worse.

Last edited by Wiley Coyote; 12/18/14 05:15 AM.

I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: HippieKiller] #1191216
12/18/14 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
Japan = ACTUALLY BOMBED U.S. SOIL, yet we trade/travel with them like nobody's business.

How many people on this forum sing praises of their Toyotas?


Only because we (auto industry) got crappy with our quality
and as for as trade with communist countries we again ran all the business off through higher taxes and labor cost.(greed)


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: HippieKiller] #1191217
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller

Cuba = was a small pawn in the USSR's machine (just like Ukraine) yet we've shunned them due to their proximity to our border. Perhaps having a real working relationship with the people of Cuba will win them over to becoming allies instead of enemies.


Do you actually think the "people" of Cuba have any choice in our relations with them? Cuba is run by the Communist government not by the people! I am sure the people of Cuba would love to become a democracy ASAP but it ain't happening.


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Originally Posted By: Moose24
Originally Posted By: HippieKiller

Cuba = was a small pawn in the USSR's machine (just like Ukraine) yet we've shunned them due to their proximity to our border. Perhaps having a real working relationship with the people of Cuba will win them over to becoming allies instead of enemies.


Do you actually think the "people" of Cuba have any choice in our relations with them? Cuba is run by the Communist government not by the people! I am sure the people of Cuba would love to become a democracy ASAP but it ain't happening.


Yup! Cuba is also known as the land of classic cars, but that was not because they like '57 Chevy's its because that was the last time they had a free society and they cobble those things together with scrap today.


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Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: N_AL_Slugger] #1191312
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Originally Posted By: N_AL_Slugger
Dislike most of Obama's policies, but applaud this Cuba move.

I'd like to buy some cigars and maybe vacation down there. The Europeans vacation there plenty.


Not me. The country owns the businesses and the military owns all the hotels there. I wouldn't go there for free. Obama bailed out a communist regime and got nothing for it at all.

Re: Obama bends over again. Cuba. [Re: Moose24] #1191321
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Originally Posted By: Moose24
Do you actually think the "people" of Cuba have any choice in our relations with them? Cuba is run by the Communist government not by the people! I am sure the people of Cuba would love to become a democracy ASAP but it ain't happening.


Probably the same kind of talk that the Brits were having circa 1775.

When a people have the desire, resources, and motivation to fight off an oppressive government, they will. Heck, look at the blowback patriotic Americans are giving to the Feds right now.


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