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So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt #1176470
12/06/14 03:15 AM
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I have a small tract of land and only about 2 acres is huntable. By huntable, I mean that's the only part of the land that has woods and isn't part of the yard to the house where the dog roams. This is mostly hardwoods with occasional pines. We had a great acorn crop this year, but from what I can tell, most of them are from oaks I've identified as water oaks. Only have a few white oaks, a good bit of reds, and a ton of water oaks. Sorry for the long post ahead..

I put up a camera about two months ago and I have deer. I have a few small bucks, spikes, and a bunch of does. I was feeding them corn up until the start of gun season. I don't bow hunt so I figured why not feed until I actually start hunting. Surprisingly, the deer still come to the old feed site, but I'm only guessing for how long they will continue without anything there.

My bucks have not been on camera since opening day. No surprise really, but I do wonder where they went.

I'm not the best in hunting. I hunted in my teens and learned a lot about it, but I've forgotten more than I'd like.

I have sign everywhere, but I'm not sure exactly how to read it. There are a few small scrapes I found, and they are within 10' of one another. They are about 20" in diameter. Here's one of the two



I also have rubs. These are on two trees in the same vicinity of the scrapes. These trees are about 8' apart. I looked for more in a line but these were the only two I saw.





They don't look particularly fresh though. I assume they might have been used some months back possibly for velvet removal..?

All this sign is in an area of the corner of the woods about 20' from the edge of the yard. It's crazy to me how close it is to the house - about 60 yards away. fresh droppings everywhere..even some clumped together (buck?).

I have not done any more major scouting over the remainder of the 2 acres of woods, because I'm afraid human intrusion may ward the deer away. I bet I might find more though If I were to look.

Both sides and the back of my land are surrounded by undeveloped woods, and I assume that this is where a lot of habitat is. Some of it may be on my land, but I don't know how to identify trails and bedding areas. Again, I assume they were only really coming onto my land because of the feeding I did. I could be wrong though.

I got started with this way too late this year to think about any kind of green fields or food plots. This summer I will definitely do this because I know this will draw them in. I am fenced all the way around with barbed wire about 4' high, but I know that is nothing for a deer to jump.

I've been in a climbing stand a few times and hunting on the ground too. I have not seen anything yet. Not a single deer.

I do hunt the wind and am prepared with scent free clothes and all the major precautions and preparations. I think the reason I'm not seeing anything is because I'm not set up on travel corridors or anywhere that they may be using on my land. Like I said, what reason do they have to come if there is no benefit like a food plot or bedding areas.

I'd be thankful for any help. I'm just trying to put some meat in the freezer.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176481
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The biggest problem you have is 2 acres is not big enough to hunt in my opinion.


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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176506
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I'd say enjoy the game cam pics and find some public land to hunt. 2 acres is not nearly enough. You could probably hunt for a week straight and not see anything, plus you'll stink the whole place up.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176509
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What is your 2 acres surrounded by?

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176520
12/06/14 03:52 AM
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Nothing but woods. Seriously..undeveloped woods.

This is Elmore Co. and those trees with runs are about 5" diameter.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176523
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I had an old buddy who hunt just over an acre and a half. It was on the edge of some big woods. He didn't see deer every time he went but about 5 years ago he killed a 160 something inch buck during bow season on that little patch of land.
That was when I was in school and lived in Tuscaloosa. After I moved back here I lost contact with him so I'm not sure if he has had anymore success.


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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176528
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Adding to that, if your little area has trails on it that's what I'd hunt, trails mean movement. Just gotta catch em during the day haha. The same problem people that hunt 3,000 acres have laugh

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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176546
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Yeah most of my pictures are at night. I think one of the main issues I have is not being able to identify trails. These don't exactly jump out at me. I'm sure a seasoned hunter may know more what they are looking at.

For instance..standing in the middle of the area I used to feed at, I can't see anything that jumps out as a trail where they are coming in. I have not walked along the fence line of the property, but I don't see any place where they may be coming in.

I'll draw up a map in paint to illustrate.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: Turkey_neck] #1176550
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Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
The biggest problem you have is 2 acres is not big enough to hunt in my opinion.


Why not? As long as u have permission from the neighbors to recover a shot deer on their land then hang a stand and hunt. JMO



Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176555
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I agree with it being hard to hunt, because I have been there done that. BUT I wouldn't give up on it just yet. If it were me I would get a plotwatcher to see if you have any deer naturaly passing through during the daytime. Especially with no more acreage that you have to hunt. This will let you know whether or not hunting the area is worth while to you. I wouldn't use corn anymore and heres why. In my experience I have had deer frequent an area during the daytime and I thought by putting corn out I could get more and bigger deer to frequent my property. Huge mistake. I no longer seen deer in that area during the daytime with corn being present. It took them a while to break out of that routine after I stopped using corn, so good call on not having it out now. If you are itching to hunt and don't have anywhere else you would rather go; I would sit there during the rut. Even if you didn't have a lot of action on the plotwatcher. You never know what could come cruising by.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176566
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Doesn't look like rubs to me.


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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: N2TRKYS] #1176572
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Me either

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176574
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Two acres is plenty if it's in the right spot. CD.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176575
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Any reason why they don't? I was skeptical as well..

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176588
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It looks like the bark is falling off. Think about it like this. If you took the back of your knife and rubbed it against the tree, would you expect it to look like that?


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176615
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I hunt my uncle's 7 acers. And have trail came pics of mostly bucks and 4 does and 7-8 bucks that i have on camera every time. If yal remember the big 8 point that got killed by the car in the subdivision not long ago it's really close to that and he was running with bigger ones than him. Hope they show up during the rut.

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176623
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2 acres is fine with the right surroundings. number 1 tip i can give you is to do your major scouting in feb. Then your scent is not an issue. Plus Right now the leaves have just fallen. Trails are hard to identify even for the most skilled and seasoned hunters. In Feb. all the rubs, scrapes, and trails are highly visible. Likely, the same one will be used next year!


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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: CD] #1176630
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I agree with CD, a super small acreage can be productive, if it's the right location at the right time. Obviously it would be easy to over hunt, keep that in mind. I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket, find some other places too.

Doesn't look like a rub to me either.



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Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: N2TRKYS] #1176636
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
It looks like the bark is falling off. Think about it like this. If you took the back of your knife and rubbed it against the tree, would you expect it to look like that?


Agreed. I don't think either one if those trees are rubbed

Re: So let's say you only have a very small area to hunt [Re: High_Gravity] #1176659
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Ok good reasons. You guys are right..could be a case of I want them to look like rubs really bad..haha.

I'm working on a topo map. It's gonna take me a while. Not an easy task.

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