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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1169259
11/30/14 07:09 PM
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MattIce
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Hunt for a big farmer on some of his land and I tear them up. At my place I'm more selective.
Parked in a holler, beneath the mountain moon light.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1169306
12/01/14 01:23 AM
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Colbert County
Teacher One
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Colbert County
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I don't shoot them, even with the bow. I guess it is something inside me about killing females, but shooting a doe does not crank my tractor. I personally would not drag one out of the woods for two of them. My area can't stand the loss of female deer, so they all get a pass. It is also surprising what is usually following those does come Christmas time. Just ask my son what follows and he will tell you why we want unpressured does on our properties. My daddy always said where you have women you will always have a few old men hanging around. He was right.
I can't stand a thief.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: turkey_killer]
#1169558
12/01/14 06:23 AM
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Posts: 11,347
Prattville AL
ElkHunter
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 11,347
Prattville AL
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Barry, are you still in charge of the BHA hunts at oak mountain? I passed that on a few years back.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1169579
12/01/14 06:42 AM
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Posts: 21,762
Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,762
Awbarn, AL
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I shoot a few every year but I'm in one of the higher deer density areas of the state. That being said, we still remain conservative with our doe harvests as a club. We don't shoot does off of greenfields and we harvest around 12 total off of 1400 acres. We harvest them within the first couple weeks of gun season and then close doe season for the rest of the year. We set our own "doe days" even though the state allows doe harvest all year in our area. .
We dont rent pigs
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1169619
12/01/14 07:15 AM
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Posts: 35
Winston County, AL
Joshua
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spike
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Winston County, AL
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Hogwild wrote, "But, I think that in general, they are extremely over-harvested on most properties."
I'm not arguing with you at all. However, I find it interesting that this is true because of all the hype about bucks across the entire industry, from magazines to websites to marketing of products -- how to shoot the biggest bucks, hunt does to find big bucks, don't shoot does before/after a certain date so you can get the biggest bucks, use this product to get the biggest bucks... on and on. I also see a lot of buck fever on forums like this one. Again, I'm sure you're right. I'm just finding it fascinating that with all the hype and talk of shooting the biggest buck around, does are still over-harvested. Could be because they're daredevils; they're always the first ones out of cover, and seem to be the ones most likely to be hit by a car.
I'm unabashedly out here specifically for does; I'm not interested in paying to have a deer mounted, and if I did it probably wouldn't get displayed. I'm here for the venison, but mostly for the excuse to get outside and enjoy nature.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: Joshua]
#1169625
12/01/14 07:19 AM
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Posts: 21,783
USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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USA
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Hogwild wrote, "But, I think that in general, they are extremely over-harvested on most properties."
I'm not arguing with you at all. However, I find it interesting that this is true because of all the hype about bucks across the entire industry, from magazines to websites to marketing of products -- how to shoot the biggest bucks, hunt does to find big bucks, don't shoot does before/after a certain date so you can get the biggest bucks, use this product to get the biggest bucks... on and on. I also see a lot of buck fever on forums like this one. Again, I'm sure you're right. I'm just finding it fascinating that with all the hype and talk of shooting the biggest buck around, does are still over-harvested. Could be because they're daredevils; they're always the first ones out of cover, and seem to be the ones most likely to be hit by a car.
I'm unabashedly out here specifically for does; I'm not interested in paying to have a deer mounted, and if I did it probably wouldn't get displayed. I'm here for the venison, but mostly for the excuse to get outside and enjoy nature. Nobody's saying you shouldn't be able to kill a doe or two for meat. What most people have thankfully realized is that if you have a total of 5 deer on 500 acres, killing 3-4 does for the purpose of trying to increase your deer herd makes no sense at all. Not even a little.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1169644
12/01/14 07:36 AM
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Posts: 2,390
By the River
antlerhunter
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,390
By the River
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I haven't shot one in years. When I can only get 2-3 does per week on my trail camera and see about 5-10 per yr while hunting, the population can not stand to lose many where I hunt. Plus, with the low number of does and overall deer we have, they tend to get the bucks moving much more than in areas that have decent populations.
You have brains in your head.
You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself
any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... (Seuss)
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Re: shooting does
[Re: deerman24]
#1169985
12/01/14 12:55 PM
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Posts: 6,999
Holly Pond, AL
NightHunter
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10 point
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Posts: 6,999
Holly Pond, AL
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Don't believe all that stuff about shooting does to make better bucks. BS Going okay until you said this^^^ It all depends on whether or not you are at or near CC for your property. If your property is at or above CC you can absolutely improve the health/quality of your ENTIRE deer herd, not just the bucks by removing a proportion of the antlerless population on your property. Simple, proven and repeated science.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: NightHunter]
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12/01/14 12:58 PM
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Posts: 34,445
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Boxes Cove
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Don't believe all that stuff about shooting does to make better bucks. BS Going okay until you said this^^^ It all depends on whether or not you are at or near CC for your property. If your property is at or above CC you can absolutely improve the health/quality of your ENTIRE deer herd, not just the bucks by removing a proportion of the antlerless population on your property. Simple, proven and repeated science.  Location, location, location.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1170010
12/01/14 01:16 PM
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Matt Brock
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I know it's hard for some on here to believe but there are places in AL that NEED to kill more deer. Removing mouths does indeed improve herd health. And populations with fewer does is the ideal situation for killing a mature buck up on his feet, NOT having 25 does in a field as a "lure".
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1170016
12/01/14 01:23 PM
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Posts: 22,263
Mayberry
Brent
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Administrator
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I haven't shot one with a gun in years. I try to kill a couple each year around the house with a bow.
"How in the hell did you get to be a moderator?"...Skinny
God Bless Nick Saban!
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Re: shooting does
[Re: rich19]
#1170021
12/01/14 01:29 PM
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Posts: 2,775
Florida
jacannon
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,775
Florida
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Is this by counties or just on certain property within counties?
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: shooting does
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#1170042
12/01/14 01:49 PM
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Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,065
White Plains Alabama
cgardner
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10 point
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Posts: 4,065
White Plains Alabama
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I know it's hard for some on here to believe but there are places in AL that NEED to kill more deer. Removing mouths does indeed improve herd health. And populations with fewer does is the ideal situation for killing a mature buck up on his feet, NOT having 25 does in a field as a "lure". In your opinion, what percentage of the state would be considered over populated? I've hunted most parts, and I would guess less than 15% was over populated. The problem that I am seeing is that kids are going out and not seeing deer and getting bored with it. I still have not been able to get my boy out and see a deer from a stand.
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