deer plots .

read the last paragraph . i wonder if cows would be the same ?

dead pig

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Anybody but me remember that South Park episode where the poor ole rabbit was "comin right at me". Hahaha gotta laugh at this one

Lol uncle jimbo and ned remind me of some of the locals around here

We used to have a similar problem with the hunting club that backed up to us. Cows would get out and mow the Greenfields down.

I know what happened last time I ran into cows in our green field. We had steaks for a while. We took out 3. But they were my grand fathers. They got out and we couldn't get near them didnt see them for a couple of weeks then they showed up on our green fields. He always had the idea that when a cow went into the arena at the sale he could get them cheaper either doped or if they cleared out the arena and tried to jump the gate.

Bet Daggerz could relate...

Poor ol Artie

We bought 2 cows with 2 calves last week and paid 5,100 for them. That is not a misprint-$5,100.00 for them. We have good fences to contain our cattle, and I would hate to think about one getting out and someone shooting it. We only have one pet-ole Ruthie that we raised on a bottle and she has never raised a calf, she is just a pet and my 2 year old granddaughter has ridden her a bunch times because she is so gentle. If she got out and someone said she attacked them I would have to believe them and get over it after they shot and killed her. I would probably take her to the packing house and give her to friends after processing. I just don't think I could eat that cow when I can't even think about taking her to market now.

As far as DCNR goes, the killing of the hog is legal since it is illegal to release a domestic hog into the Wild.

DCNR has absolutely NOTHING to do with Livestock Laws, though.
SO, their stance on this has nothing at all to do with the legalities of shooting cattle and horses.

I have had trouble the past 2 yrs with cattle on my place.....a LOT of trouble! I finally had enough and got the AL Rural Crime Task Force involved. 2 visits with the cattle owner later, there is a brand new fence, less cattle and none have been out in over 2 months now. They got the message out...real plain and simple.

Problem is getting handled this eve.

Yeah it was always funny how when I hunted in Selma our Greenfield's would look great on a Sunday come back Friday and cows have mowed them down. It happened several times a year for a couple years always during the week and up by weekend. It was amazing how it stopped when a couple didn't make it home one year.

Don't shoot the cows,a buddy of mines dad and uncle got tired of dealing with the neighbors cows in their plots all the time and took several out after the cows owner wouldn't do anything about them getting out,the dad and uncle ended up buying those dead cows

Yep!

And cattle prices are through the roof right now!

Law:

3-4-6. Liability of owner of animal breaking into lands not enclosed by lawful fence for trespass or damages; liability of person injuring or destroying such animal.
(a) If any trespass or damage is done by any animal breaking into lands not enclosed by a lawful fence as defined in this chapter, the owner shall not be liable therefor.
(b) If any person injures or destroys any such animal, he shall be liable to the owner for five times the amount of injury done, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction.

In other words, if the livestock owner has a legal fence and is making an attempt to keep it up, he is not liable for any damage his livestock does if they escape. And, in turn, if your property does NOT have a legal fence to keep them out, you are liable if you injure of kill the animal......for up to 5x the value of the animal!
Best thing to do is call the proper LEO!!!!

ok i'm goona split hairs . the law says "any animal" not livestock . the hog imo is "any animal" why was it ok to kill the hog .

That's a bullshit law if you ask me. (I know you didn't ask me). I agree on not shooting the cows but why should owner not be liable for damage. They are his to control and maintain, not mine. If I had a major problem with them doing that I would SSS. And yes I do have machines big enough to dig that size hole in less than 20 minutes. And how in the world would the landowner ever know if they don't trespass on your land looking for said animals anyway.

i know my ex boss had troulble with cows . it got a nother framer to to rope and catch all the loose cows . the guy that owned the cattle had to pay a hefty price to get the cows back .

I was told if its on your property and is a danger to you or any other person its self defense. Had to deal with my neighbors pit when it showed up at the house and a leo was called. And that goes with any animal.

On the hog.....as stated, it was NOT against any Game and Fish Law.
Nobody said anything about civil law.

gotcha ,, thanks .

i killed four dogs one time in my sister's yard . the cops said to kill the other one if it came back .

While not something that comes up with any frequency in my practice, I generally know that there are "fence in" and "fence out" areas in the state. The quoted statute is "fence out" meaning it is your obligation to maintain a legal fence to keep animals off your property. Law dates back to open range grazing days.

In "fence in" areas, it is the duty of the livestock owner to keep the animals contained within a lawful fence. The failure to do so creates liability.

Fence in seems like what everything should be in alabama these days. There is no open range grazing anymore.

3-5-1. "Livestock" or "animal" defined
The term "livestock" or "animal," where it occurs in this chapter, shall be held to be limited to and to refer to horses, mares, mules, jacks, jennies, colts, cows, calves, yearlings, bulls, oxen, sheep, goats, lambs, kids, hogs, shoats and pigs.


God Bless,
David B.

HOWEVER,


3-5-2. Permitting livestock or animals to run at large upon premises of another without permission or upon public lands, highways, etc., generally

(a) It shall be unlawful for the owner of any livestock or animal, as defined in section 3-5-1, to knowingly, voluntarily, negligently or willfully permit any such livestock or animal to go at large in the state of Alabama either upon the premises of another or upon the public lands, highways, roads or streets in the state of Alabama.

(b) Nothing in this section or elsewhere in this chapter shall be construed to make it unlawful for livestock or other animals to run at large on the premises of another when the owner or person in charge of the premises has consented in writing to let livestock or other animals run at large on the same or to subject the owner of such livestock or other animals to criminal prosecution therefor.

(c) There shall be no "open range" counties in this state. This section shall apply to all counties within the state.

(d) Any person or persons owning or having the possession, custody or control of any livestock who unlawfully and knowingly permit the same to run or be at large, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, on conviction, shall be fined not less than double the damages sustained by the injured party or parties, but in no case more than $50.00, one half of such fine to go to the injured party or parties, and may also be imprisoned in the county jail or sentenced to hard labor for the county for a term not exceeding six months at the discretion of the court trying the case.



3-5-3. Liability of owner for damages done by livestock or animals running at large; judgment lien upon animal or livestock causing damage

(a) The owner of such livestock or animal being or running at large upon the premises of another or upon the public lands, roads, highways or streets in the state of Alabama shall be liable for all damages done to crops, shade or fruit trees or ornamental shrubs and flowers of any person, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction; provided, that the owner of any stock or animal shall not be liable for any damages to any motor vehicle or any occupant thereof suffered, caused by or resulting from a collision with such stock or other animal, unless it be proven that such owner knowingly or wilfully put or placed such stock upon such public highway, road or street where such damages were occasioned.

(b) The judgment of the court against the owner of such livestock or animal so depredating shall be a lien superior to all other liens on the livestock or animal causing the damage, except as to taxes.


I'm not a lawyer.

God Bless,
David B.