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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: charlie] #1157371
11/21/14 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: charlie
For me number one is gas prices. I think that is the key to the entire economy really. Gas, food, and insurance have gone up so much people have changed the way they live. Something has to go, and for me that means less driving which equals less hunting which means a club a few hours away is less desirable.
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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: Talltines] #1157372
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Originally Posted By: Talltines
Sure sign the economy is sucking Donkey balls. Look in a pawn shop parking lot. Use to be most of my customer were people that worked at fast food places, Waitress, Single parents, Lower end of middle class people that drove older model cars. Now just about more than half the Vehicles that pull in are Newer Silverado 4 doors, F250's, Lexus, when the middle and upper middle class is having a ruff time with making ends meet it is getting ruff.
Then again, maybe they spent too much $$ on their vehicles?


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157381
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Alot of people are leasing there own property & staying away from the clubs..I've seen this coming for a few years,folks are getting tired of crap associated with clubs now days..


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157382
11/21/14 07:17 AM
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The truth is there is only so much money on given person's pay check. A lot of that money each month is now taken up by cell phone bills, Internet bills, and TV bills. When you stop and think, it's crazy how much we pay for technology these days that we didn't pay for 30 years ago. On top of that, I personally think a lot people extend themselves too far financially. At the end of the day, for some people, hunting club dues end up at the bottom of the priority list.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: hunting13] #1157384
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Originally Posted By: hunting13
For me it's my economy. I dont have near the extra $$ I used to. Back before $75 fill ups and $200+ groceries a week I had lots of spending $$


This! With Groceries being the bigger of the 2. They have gone up at least 50 % over the last 5 years and that adds up big time when the economy is flat and no one is getting raises. Someone also mentioned healthcare costs. There is at least a post a week of people talking about their insurance costs rising exponentially.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: gman] #1157389
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Originally Posted By: gman
Originally Posted By: Talltines
Sure sign the economy is sucking Donkey balls. Look in a pawn shop parking lot. Use to be most of my customer were people that worked at fast food places, Waitress, Single parents, Lower end of middle class people that drove older model cars. Now just about more than half the Vehicles that pull in are Newer Silverado 4 doors, F250's, Lexus, when the middle and upper middle class is having a ruff time with making ends meet it is getting ruff.
Then again, maybe they spent too much $$ on their vehicles?


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Originally Posted By: james
Alot of people are leasing there own property & staying away from the clubs..I've seen this coming for a few years,folks are getting tired of crap associated with clubs now days..


That is my thinking. I am so thankful that I am in a small close-knit club where basically there aren't many rules but we run more off gentleman's agreement.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157398
11/21/14 07:34 AM
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Between my two jobs and my wife's one we have a decent income. But nowadays we have NO what you would call 'disposable' income. The price of TAXES, energy, insurance, groceries, medical costs themselves, vehicle parts and maintenance have all gone through the roof! Crap you can't even buy a car battery these days for under a hundred bucks! Tires, UGH! Clothing hasn't gone up much, but who can afford more than they absolutely need? And get ready, its coming, mandated taxes on all internet purchases. We are already headed down that road.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: Bowfool] #1157422
11/21/14 08:05 AM
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If it weren't for dear friends and family members with land I wouldn't hunt. For one it ain't enough sugar for a dime and for second to much BS with clubs.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: leroycnbucks] #1157490
11/21/14 09:15 AM
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When I got back home to Bama in 2006 I instantly joined a club. I completed the year and never looked back. Too many rules, the kids were not having fun with all the point restrictions and such. The club prez couldn't even understand why his kids had lost interest in hunting as well. Board members tried to cheat the rules and so on, and so on. I restricted myself to a friends 113 acres in Washington county the next 3 years and enjoyed every bit of it. I let the boy do as he pleased, I passed on several bucks but, it was 100% more enjoyable. I also would never pay $1000 or more to be in a club. There are so many hunts I could do from $1000-$2000 dollars that I don't see the benefits. Maybe part of my thinking stems from my hunt experiences all over the country and the total number of whitetail I've taken, not sure. I do know that if I move back home, I'll lease my own land or just do the public thing...

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157522
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I have not seen a decrease in my area , I have sold more tree stands and cameras this year than I ever have.

I do agree it is getting a little easier to pick up new leases .

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157776
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I live on the Tuscaloosa- Greene county line and I've seen about 200 trucks pulling 4 wheelers and side by sides today headed out to hunt tomorrow. Seems pretty good to me


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157782
11/21/14 01:50 PM
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Things seem busy today because opening day is tomorrow. However, overall things are down in general because the middle class has far less recreational money than it did before 2008. The tourism industry has had to make big adjustments.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1157813
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There are deer hunters and then there are DEER HUNTERS, the ones that truly love it and live for it find a way to do it, when the economy is tough then the ones that just call themselves hunters fade away.

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: striker6126] #1157927
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Originally Posted By: striker6126
I have not seen a decrease in my area , I have sold more tree stands and cameras this year than I ever have.

I do agree it is getting a little easier to pick up new leases .


You got a hunting supply store? Where is your area?


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: teamduckdown] #1158219
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The 3 buck limit also makes it harder to justify spending $1000-2000 on club dues when you can only kill 3 bucks. Add in all the other expenses and it makes each buck worth thousands of dollars.


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Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: sluggun] #1158223
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Originally Posted By: sluggun
The 3 buck limit also makes it harder to justify spending $1000-2000 on club dues when you can only kill 3 bucks. Add in all the other expenses and it makes each buck worth thousands of dollars.


Do you mount three bucks every year?

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: centralala] #1158497
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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: Talltines
Sure sign the economy is sucking Donkey balls. Look in a pawn shop parking lot. Use to be most of my customer were people that worked at fast food places, Waitress, Single parents, Lower end of middle class people that drove older model cars. Now just about more than half the Vehicles that pull in are Newer Silverado 4 doors, F250's, Lexus, when the middle and upper middle class is having a ruff time with making ends meet it is getting ruff.


That's interesting. Bet you can tell more about what the economy is doing than any new outlet.


maybe if they werent driving $60k plus vehicles, they'd have a little more spending money

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: daniel white] #1158562
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Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: striker6126
I have not seen a decrease in my area , I have sold more tree stands and cameras this year than I ever have.

I do agree it is getting a little easier to pick up new leases .


You got a hunting supply store? Where is your area?


I am in Troy/luverne. No I do not have a hunting store at the moment , I have a furniture store and restaurant and use my business license to dabble in tree stands and trail cameras and a few other things .

I bought the last 30 m100's millennium had a two weeks ago and have sold 24 of them in that time .

Re: Proof the Economy sucks or.... [Re: MANGLER] #1158744
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Originally Posted By: MANGLER
Originally Posted By: hunting13
For me it's my economy. I dont have near the extra $$ I used to. Back before $75 fill ups and $200+ groceries a week I had lots of spending $$


This! With Groceries being the bigger of the 2. They have gone up at least 50 % over the last 5 years and that adds up big time when the economy is flat and no one is getting raises. Someone also mentioned healthcare costs. There is at least a post a week of people talking about their insurance costs rising exponentially.


I agree with both of you. And yet there's not a single mention of inflation on the news.


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