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Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries #1151095
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Of ALL the deer in Alabama shot with a bow, what percentage do you think are recovered?….Would you go over or under 50%.


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151102
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Slightly over. Maybe around 65%

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I'm going to go slightly under and say 40%.

I do a lot better these days hunting with a crossbow but its still far from a sure recovery. With the habitat that most of us hunt and a deer's ability to travel several hundred yards even with good shot placement, its tough to pull off at a high percentage. When I was younger in my teens and early twenties hunting with a compound, I would have been lucky if my recovery was 40%. These days I'd say I'm around 75%.


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I would guess over 50% in all and would guess it is higher for bucks than does, they are a lot of people that look a lot harder for bucks than they do does.


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my guess is over maybe 60%


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151256
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Over 60% for sure


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151260
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Statewide? That would be a complete shot in the dark, because some people will fling an arrow, no matter what. I usually kill 2-3 deer/year with my bow and probably don't find one, every other year, so its probably 80% for me.

Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151270
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I'm 100% this season.


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151337
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Years ago I chose to stop bow hunting, I only shot one deer, recovered the deer and hung my bow up. I have heard way too many people say "I stuck one yesterday, or I stuck three last week", not recovering many of them. If I had my own lease I controlled I would not have a bow season on the land. I'm going to let my grandsons shoot crossbows on land I own, but they have proven to be by far easier to hit what you are shooting at, IMHO.

Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151382
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Our property the last 3 years has been, 100 percent, 75 percent, and 100 percent. Of course that is just a few hunters, but I would say the statewide average is higher than 50 percent.

Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151405
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I've shot atleast 30 to 40 deer with my bow and I've only had 1 that I didn't find


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151460
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I'd go over too. I would imagine 60-70% are recovered. Shucks, I don't know that it'd be a whole lot higher with firearms. Being picky about the terminology, we aren't talking about non-fatal hits, we're talking about FOUND deer. There's a bunch of deer hit with bows AND guns that die, but aren't found.

On the converse, if you shoot through the deer(not lethal, no major organ damage), that deer is highly likely to survive a bow shot. But the concussive effect of a gun will damage that deer enough to eventually kill it, but not be found.

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you will never be accurate. i try to only take sure shots and i have found 2 and lost one this year but the one i lost was a buck over 200 lbs and i hit him in the same exact spot on his body that i hit a doe a week before and she didnt go 40 yards. difference was, i didn't get an exit wound on the buck.(i did call in a track dog and i looked for him for 3 days) guess what i'm getting at is i shoot my bow all year and only take good shots. i know people who pick their bow up on october 14th and take a handful of shots and consider it good and then head to the woods and shoot "at" any deer that gets within 50 yards and they never find them. not everyone is an ethical bow hunter

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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151501
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Study in QDMA magazine recorded over 80% deer that were recovered. Seems the sample size was +\- 2K deer arrowed. I'd venture to say the recovery rate is almost as high as deer shot with a firearm. I've lost 2 deer in 20+ years of bow hunting. I've lost more than that with a rifle.


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Ya'll are just overthinking it now

Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: tfd1224] #1151503
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Originally Posted By: tfd1224
you will never be accurate. i try to only take sure shots and i have found 2 and lost one this year but the one i lost was a buck over 200 lbs and i hit him in the same exact spot on his body that i hit a doe a week before and she didnt go 40 yards. difference was, i didn't get an exit wound on the buck.(i did call in a track dog and i looked for him for 3 days) guess what i'm getting at is i shoot my bow all year and only take good shots. i know people who pick their bow up on october 14th and take a handful of shots and consider it good and then head to the woods and shoot "at" any deer that gets within 50 yards and they never find them. not everyone is an ethical bow hunter


This is the very reason why I chose under 50%. I'm betting that the vast majority of hunters are just average joe hunters and only pick their bows up a couple weeks before season. I'd say you'd be lucky if 10-20% of the bow hunters in the woods shoot much more than that.


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151511
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Originally Posted By: CNC
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you will never be accurate. i try to only take sure shots and i have found 2 and lost one this year but the one i lost was a buck over 200 lbs and i hit him in the same exact spot on his body that i hit a doe a week before and she didnt go 40 yards. difference was, i didn't get an exit wound on the buck.(i did call in a track dog and i looked for him for 3 days) guess what i'm getting at is i shoot my bow all year and only take good shots. i know people who pick their bow up on october 14th and take a handful of shots and consider it good and then head to the woods and shoot "at" any deer that gets within 50 yards and they never find them. not everyone is an ethical bow hunter

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This is the very reason why I chose under 50%. I'm betting that the vast majority of hunters are just average joe hunters and only pick their bows up a couple weeks before season. I'd say you'd be lucky if 10-20% of the bow hunters in the woods shoot much more than that.



I disagree. I'd say the VAST majority of bow hunters spend much more time practicing and becoming familiar with their weapon than the average lead slinger.


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Ya'll are just overthinking it now

Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151520
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I'll be honest, i only shoot my bow about 3 weeks a year. I've been bowhunting for 20 years. Like riding a bicycle, when i'm shooting, i'm getting my muscles in shape. I, also don't run out and buy a new bow every 3 years, like some people, so i'm very familar with it. I've been using the same rifle for about 15 years, with the same scope. I shoot it a couple times to make sure its still on, and it always is. I only take shots, that i'm comfortable with. I had a very nice 8ptr at 50 yards, opening day, and because i don't shoot at that distance, i didn't take the shot. How many people would have just aimed a little high and let the arrow fly?

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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151523
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I agree with 3FFarms - over 80%.
You can (and I have) lose them both ways.

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Originally Posted By: 3FFarms
I disagree. I'd say the VAST majority of bow hunters spend much more time practicing and becoming familiar with their weapon than the average lead slinger.


I wouldn't doubt that bow hunters probably spend more time practicing than gun hunters but when I think back on all the hunting clubs that I've been in over the years, I can only really remember a couple of guys who were truly what I'd consider "hardcore". Most of the rest of the guys were just what many here would consider to be amateur. They may shoot some for fun here and there but they don't shoot routinely year round or anything. They practice a little before season and then go hunting.

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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151534
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I doubt all hunters in the state are at 50%. I'll take the under...


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: walt4dun] #1151581
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Originally Posted By: walt4dun
I agree with 3FFarms - over 80%.
You can (and I have) lose them both ways.


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151587
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can't speak for the rest of ya'll but my recovery rate over the last 40+ years is over 90% counting all hits. Some of those were non lethal hits and I'm sure they recovered. I've lost only a couple of deer that I though died when lost. Studies have shown that a high percentage of hit and lost deer do recover from broadhead wounds.


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151593
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Yea, I just do not see the recovery rate for the entire state of Alabama being above 70%. I myself am sitting at 1/2 or 50% for the season.. Me alone could drag an individual who is 1/1 or (100%) down to 2/3 or 66% once combined.

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The numbers for this are already out there if you look. 50% of shots taken actually connect with their target. Of the ones that connect, 50% are recovered. That's for all archery hunters in all age classes.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
The numbers for this are already out there if you look. 50% of shots taken actually connect with their target. Of the ones that connect, 50% are recovered. That's for all archery hunters in all age classes.



Where in the world did they get that info?


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Re: Over or Under: Bow Shot Recoveries [Re: CNC] #1151777
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For us on our land with 7-8 deer taken with a bow each year there usually are 1-2 that are not recovered so I guess put us in the 75-85% range


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That's a number I've been given on several occasions by hunting instructors, bow hunting mentors, and professional bow hunters. And I would say it's about right. Lot of shots get taken by folks that never say a word because they are ashamed to admit they missed.

You have to remember that number includes all hunters, experienced, inexperienced, young, old, public land, private land. You would NOT believe some of the folks that come by the check stations on public lands. Those folks are slinging arrows too. There is a segment of the bow-hunting population that has a success rate of 80% or higher, but it is NOT the majority.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
That's a number I've been given on several occasions by hunting instructors, bow hunting mentors, and professional bow hunters. And I would say it's about right. Lot of shots get taken by folks that never say a word because they are ashamed to admit they missed.

You have to remember that number includes all hunters, experienced, inexperienced, young, old, public land, private land. You would NOT believe some of the folks that come by the check stations on public lands. Those folks are slinging arrows too. There is a segment of the bow-hunting population that has a success rate of 80% or higher, but it is NOT the majority.



I don't doubt that a lot of folks aren't prepared. I keep seeing all these sats and I just have to wonder about their sampling techinque.


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There are bow hunters and then there are hard core bow hunters. I would venture to say most of you guys that replied with a a very high recovery rate are hard core. For a lot of people bow season is a reason to get in the woods before rifle season.



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I went on a 6-7 yr stretch and killed 2-3 deer per year and never lost one, but of course that didn't last. I'd say I'm 90% if I hit them. I tend to either miss or kill. Now missing is a whole nother story.


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I would say over if you count hits only If you add complete misses into the number it is probably closer to %50.

With a Bow I was 0-2. I shot two I never recovered, one lived and I saw it later that year.

With a crossbow I'm around 13-15 13-16 if you count one I completely missed.

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I'm betting way under 50%, I don't like those odds and don't allow bow hunting on my land.

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