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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 09:03 AM
11/06/14 09:03 AM
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In short no.
Once wild always wild until dead.
Last edited by NightHunter; 11/06/14 09:08 AM.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: Hunthard]
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11/06/14 09:06 AM
11/06/14 09:06 AM
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BhamFred
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71.19 Identification of swine in interstate commerce. It states it pretty clearly here. You can't legally transport feral hogs because they have to be marked is some way form or fashion that is recorded by the state. That is how you can tell the difference between domesticated and wild. Of course you can try to mark them illegally and run them that way but then you are breaking another law, a federal one in that case. hey dummy, transporting down Interstate I-20 dosen't make it INTERSTATE transportation UNLESS ya cross a state line....LOL, thats some funny chitt.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: NightHunter]
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11/06/14 09:08 AM
11/06/14 09:08 AM
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BhamFred
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I didn't grow up on a hog farm but I hunted on one and my grandfather raised them so I've spent more time around those parlors than I ever care to admit. Anyone who mistakes farm grown pork for a feral hog is a MORON!
Seeing it speed by at 65 mph maybe but walking up and looking there will be no doubt. so give me the definitive court proof way of PROVING a hog is wild trapped vs bought from a person who is raising hogs from feral looking stock......and selling them legally. saying "oh yeah, that one is a wild trapped feral hog" and PROVING it in a court of law are two different things..... As long as it takes court cases to play out, a simple DNA test would be easy. Heck in some areas they use these tests to estimate population size and diversity. all DNA test will prove is that the pigs come from feral stock, or from pigs raised on a farm that used feral pigs for starters, it damn sure won't PROVE where/when the pigs came from.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: shooters]
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11/06/14 09:10 AM
11/06/14 09:10 AM
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Doesnt matter if it is a "feel good law". Its is desigined to stop the spread of wild hogs, by the method of trainsporting them to other areas. Outlaws will allways look for and complain about laws. Some will even " what if them" to death. Transporting live Wild Hogs is illegal. I and MANY other wish we could get ride of all of them. Many people want them legitimized as a sport and/or a game aniamal, but i personal beleive they are a nusiance. The law is here to TRY to protect us from the spread of wild hogs. The what ifs, should be left to GWs and the judges to decide the final verdic. So I quess if you are hauling around a bunch of hogs, you better have = ear tags, proper paper work, bill of sale, OR be able to convince someone that they are NOT wild! Seams pretty simple to me! there ain't no tags or paperwork required to move hogs from Demopolis to Bham.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: BhamFred]
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11/06/14 09:12 AM
11/06/14 09:12 AM
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71.19 Identification of swine in interstate commerce. It states it pretty clearly here. You can't legally transport feral hogs because they have to be marked is some way form or fashion that is recorded by the state. That is how you can tell the difference between domesticated and wild. Of course you can try to mark them illegally and run them that way but then you are breaking another law, a federal one in that case. hey dummy, transporting down Interstate I-20 dosen't make it INTERSTATE transportation UNLESS ya cross a state line....LOL, thats some funny chitt. Sure it does Paw Paw. It's being transported on the interstate
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 09:14 AM
11/06/14 09:14 AM
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BhamFred
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is that Interstate or interstate?????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: BayedUp]
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11/06/14 09:32 AM
11/06/14 09:32 AM
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Because it was to easy and simple the other way. And too many people started blaming hogs multiplying and spreading on people transporting and releasing them. Hogs were first introduced to the Americas about 600 years ago. The vast majority of their newly acquired territory has been accomplished via man. They dang sure didn't just decide 20-30 years ago to start migrating all over the country. Almost everywhere I get hog work I get told who brought them to the area and when. I have even had a couple of guys admit they were the guilty party and they just didn't know what a stupid thing it was to do it.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: NightHunter]
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11/06/14 09:33 AM
11/06/14 09:33 AM
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And too many people started blaming hogs multiplying and spreading on people transporting and releasing them. And with good reason. They were doing it. I'm just a nobody hick in a little one red light town and I personally knew of 4 different groups of hog hunters that were catching and releasing them in different areas. If I knew of that many people doing it just in my little tiny corner of Alabama then I'll go out on a limb and say it must have been a pretty common thing.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: ElkHunter]
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11/06/14 03:30 PM
11/06/14 03:30 PM
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Because it was to easy and simple the other way. And too many people started blaming hogs multiplying and spreading on people transporting and releasing them. Hogs were first introduced to the Americas about 600 years ago. The vast majority of their newly acquired territory has been accomplished via man. They dang sure didn't just decide 20-30 years ago to start migrating all over the country. Almost everywhere I get hog work I get told who brought them to the area and when. I have even had a couple of guys admit they were the guilty party and they just didn't know what a stupid thing it was to do it. So......at what point were they prosecuted and EXACTLY how is the new Rule preventing it??? Because it was against the Law WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY before this new Rule hit the Books!!!!!
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 03:32 PM
11/06/14 03:32 PM
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Daniel,
I doubt the DCNR can prosecute years after the fact just on hearsay.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 03:36 PM
11/06/14 03:36 PM
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Hogwild
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I agree.... BUT, the simple TRUTH is that the Law has NOT been actively enforced. And, all of us 'involved' with the situation KNOW that. Some just will not admit that and somehow think that a 'new' Rule will solve all the problems. Just a fact. Not trying to be an a$$!
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: Hogwild]
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11/06/14 03:37 PM
11/06/14 03:37 PM
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Posts: 6,999 Holly Pond, AL
NightHunter
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at what point does a breeding pair of registered domestic hogs become 'wild' and identifiable as 'feral'? I follow you on this one...
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: Hogwild]
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11/06/14 03:43 PM
11/06/14 03:43 PM
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much less the intent of the person Transporting?
Intent isn't hard to prove if you give them time...
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