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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: BayedUp]
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11/05/14 01:57 PM
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Because it was to easy and simple the other way. And too many people started blaming hogs multiplying and spreading on people transporting and releasing them. If you are hauling them around . You ARE spreading them. I dont see what is so complacted about that!
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/05/14 02:00 PM
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I didn't grow up on a hog farm but I hunted on one and my grandfather raised them so I've spent more time around those parlors than I ever care to admit. Anyone who mistakes farm grown pork for a feral hog is a MORON!
Seeing it speed by at 65 mph maybe but walking up and looking there will be no doubt.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
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11/06/14 01:18 AM
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Because it was to easy and simple the other way. And too many people started blaming hogs multiplying and spreading on people transporting and releasing them. If you are hauling them around . You ARE spreading them. I dont see what is so complacted about that! I don't like to waste meat. But with that said I ain't eating a boar hog that hasn't been barred and fed out. I see nothing wrong with catching one and feeding it out. I'm not saying it should be legal to haul em off the property they were caught on but it is a stupid law that u can't pen one up to better the meat on the property it was caught on.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
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11/06/14 04:25 AM
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I didn't grow up on a hog farm but I hunted on one and my grandfather raised them so I've spent more time around those parlors than I ever care to admit. Anyone who mistakes farm grown pork for a feral hog is a MORON!
Seeing it speed by at 65 mph maybe but walking up and looking there will be no doubt. so give me the definitive court proof way of PROVING a hog is wild trapped vs bought from a person who is raising hogs from feral looking stock......and selling them legally. saying "oh yeah, that one is a wild trapped feral hog" and PROVING it in a court of law are two different things.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: charlie]
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11/06/14 05:47 AM
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GW do it all the time. Do they see every deer shot at night? Do they see every law broke? Just like baiting they use their discetion. Where is the diffenece?? Its up to a judge to decide. Most hog lovers know what they are doing with this law anyway. They are trying to spread pigs to other areas.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: Hunthard]
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11/06/14 06:06 AM
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Hogs that are transported for sale have ear tags. I f you can get all of the hogs tagged in accordance with Alabama department of Agriculture so that they are sanitized, inoculated, and legitimately determined to be domesticated vice feral, then you can transport them. The possibility of that happening though is so low as to be pointless. Say what?? You may need to recheck them records. Some hogs are tagged, but most are ear notched. And some don't have nothing. Dang y'all are blowing this way out of proportion. 
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 06:31 AM
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Hunthard there is a difference in interstate and intrastate. What if they stayed in Alabama?
"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
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71.19 Identification of swine in interstate
commerce. It states it pretty clearly here. You can't legally transport feral hogs because they have to be marked is some way form or fashion that is recorded by the state. That is how you can tell the difference between domesticated and wild. Of course you can try to mark them illegally and run them that way but then you are breaking another law, a federal one in that case. All I'm saying is you don't have to have a tag in a pigs ear to carry it to the sale.
"You do and it will be the biggest mistake you ever made, you Texas brush popper" John Wayne
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: BhamFred]
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11/06/14 07:22 AM
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I didn't grow up on a hog farm but I hunted on one and my grandfather raised them so I've spent more time around those parlors than I ever care to admit. Anyone who mistakes farm grown pork for a feral hog is a MORON!
Seeing it speed by at 65 mph maybe but walking up and looking there will be no doubt. so give me the definitive court proof way of PROVING a hog is wild trapped vs bought from a person who is raising hogs from feral looking stock......and selling them legally. saying "oh yeah, that one is a wild trapped feral hog" and PROVING it in a court of law are two different things..... As long as it takes court cases to play out, a simple DNA test would be easy. Heck in some areas they use these tests to estimate population size and diversity.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 07:28 AM
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For ol 49er  220-2-.86 Feral Swine Regulation.
(1) The seasons and methods for taking feral swine will be as provided in Rule 220-2-.01.
(2) Upon taking or capturing or having in possession any feral swine it shall be unlawful to release said feral swine alive or to transport said live feral swine. All feral swine taken by trap or dogs or otherwise must be killed on site. Furthermore, it shall be unlawful to release any live domestic swine into the wild.
Author: N. Gunter Guy, Jr.
Statutory Authority: Code of Ala. 1975, §§9-2-7, 9-2-8, 9-2-12.
History: Effective October 18, 1985. Repealed and Replaced: Filed September 20, 1995; effective October 26, 1995. Amended: Filed January 7, 1997; effective February 11, 1997. Amended: Filed August 10, 2004; effective September 14, 2004. Amended: Filed August 15, 2012; effective September 19, 2012. Amended: Filed May 20, 2014; effective June 24, 2014.
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Re: "Transporting live wild hogs"
[Re: olechris]
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11/06/14 08:04 AM
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Ok....y'all asked.....SO, here is the 'tricky' part.
Hogs that were legally caught and penned PRIOR to this new Legislation are NOT covered under it.
I happen to know a bunch of people who have hogs in pens that they raise to eat that originated from trapped/caught feral hogs. And, it is VERY legal to posess, haul, or do most anything else with them that you can with a prize-winning Yorkshire.
That said.....I agree with Bayedup.
The Law has not 'changed' anything. The people who were willing to take the risk of transport prior to this are still going to risk it! So, technically, all it did was place further restrictions on the law-abiding Hunters and Trappers of this State. It is a 'feel-good' Law for the people who were pushing it.
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