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Watering patches #1130730
10/30/14 02:13 PM
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Abbeville, Alabama
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Any good suggestions for gas powered pump for watering patches in the woods away from electricity? I have good water source and the pump will be close to the water. Only 3-6 feet above water level. The water has to be moved maybe 200-300 yards at a slight decline. I need to run 2-3 garden sprinklers. Thanks


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130758
10/30/14 02:25 PM
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You can get gas powered water pumps at TSC. I don't know if they would move too much water though. They move a high volume of water. If its on a decline, you may be able to siphon water down to the site.

300 yards of decline would make a bunch of water pressure. Sprinklers would work off that pressure easily.

Last edited by Bigbamaboy; 10/30/14 02:26 PM.

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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130760
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Honda makes a 4" dirty pump that has alot of head pressure. Pricey but theyre good. Make a metal mesh basket to keep it from sucking in sticks


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130792
10/30/14 02:45 PM
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Pumps are rated on how high they will suck water, and how high they will pump it. The friction of moving the water through the pipe has the same effect as lifting the water higher. The vertical lift, measured from the the water level (elevation) of what you are pumping from, and your highest point, plus frictional loss equal head pressure.

You will need a pump capable of pumping a higher head pressure than you have at a sufficient volume. The pump manufacturer will have a curve which shows how much volume a pump will produce at what head pressure. The higher the head pressure, the lower the volume.

Most gas powered, relatively cheap, pumps are usually high volume, low pressure.

I have been considering doing the same thing as you, and am looking into a pto driven pump to get the volume and pressure I need which is more than likely going to cost over $1K.

If you set your system up in zones, and only run one pump head at a time, you can reduce the cost by buying a pump that produces less volume.


Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130831
10/30/14 03:02 PM
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You might be better off splitting the hose into several smaller ones put them on the uphill side and just flooding it best you can without washing it away. Should work if plots are already up pretty good.

Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130850
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one for pto might be your cheapest way out if you have the tractor

Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1130872
10/30/14 03:27 PM
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I'm in the pump business and rent/sell pumping systems (normally a little larger than what you are talking), but may be able to point you in the right direction.

You may want to look at the Honda WH20X pump. It is a higher head (pushes water farther, higher, quicker) style pump that may work for your application. The WH is Honda's high head pump. If I remember right, that unit dead-heads at like 90' of head. Otherwise you will need to upsize to a larger unit to get what you want.

Let me know if I can answer any technical questions for you on sizing your system.

Re: Watering patches [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #1130874
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I've been thinking about the pto pump. i have a small 35 hp tractor which shouldn't be to expensive to operate. If the pump is not cost prohibitive.


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Re: Watering patches [Re: AlabamaPhi] #1130885
10/30/14 03:34 PM
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I will check into that Honda. I would like to use the tractor as last resort.


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131271
10/31/14 02:17 AM
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My friend has a gas powered pump that he took on pawn. It was used to pump water out of pools so they could be worked on.
It's about the size and it looks like a generator.


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131537
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Pm to you.


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131615
10/31/14 08:26 AM
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You can make a pump that works off a running creek with no motor. Let's see if I can find it.


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131622
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Look up ram pump on youtube


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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131625
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Use a well pump, probably 1-1.5 hp and a generator. You should be able to run a couple sprinklers. My well is 400' deep, and i ran 200' of garden hose and another 150 yards of the black plastic pipe, maybe 1/2", downhill to a food plot and ran 2 sprinklers off it. It may be best to just wait for mother nature to provide, or you could be $200-$300 in debt when its over with. Cheaper to replant.

Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1131824
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I watered one of our pastures from our pond during a drought with one of the gas powered pumps from Tractor supply. It has a 2" input and output. I bought some of the cheap 2" flex hose (like a thin tire innertube) drilled a 1/2" hole in it about every 6-8", tied a knot in the end of the hose and let the water flow out over the pasture. Sort of like a soaker hose on steroids. I put the hose on the high spots and let it flow downhill. Just be sure to get a screen to put over the suction end of the hose. They sell premade ones at TSC. The pump worked pretty good and I ended up using it on a nurse tank to fill our sprayer until it finally locked up.

I just re-read your post. You can't run a garden sprinkler on one of the TSC pumps. Too much back pressure. You will have no problems at all with the lift if it's only 3-4 feet. I was pumping water 20-30 foot elevation. I put the pump as close to the water level at the pond as I could. You will have to drive a metal rod or Tee post to tie the pump to or it will wind up in the pond.

I think that pump only cost a couple hundred $. It worked real good.

Last edited by FurFlyin; 10/31/14 12:47 PM.

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Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1132855
11/01/14 04:42 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys. Good thoughts


Happiness is a large gut pile and turkey feathers in the bed of the truck.
Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1132890
11/01/14 05:01 PM
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http://www.electricgeneratordepot.com/ho...CFSpk7AodaiAA-Q

Check out these little guys. Don't know anything about pressure or wether you can run sprinklers off them but I use them at work a lot and they are impressive for their size

Re: Watering patches [Re: labowhunter] #1132917
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Harbor Freight also has inexpensive water pumps.


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