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Fawns & Does
#1071865
09/10/14 01:59 AM
09/10/14 01:59 AM
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Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,716
Cleburne
.308
OP
14 point
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14 point
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Cleburne
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When you shoot a doe with a fawn, do you take the fawn too? I never did until I started thinking about what happened to the fawn afterwards. I couldn't bear the thought of a yote eating the fawn alive so I figured out a quick head shot was much less painless than the alternative. Also a head shot is a must to keep from wasting most of the tender meat. What's your opinion?
"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071870
09/10/14 02:06 AM
09/10/14 02:06 AM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 20,139
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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Northport, AL
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Personally I won't shoot a doe if it has fawn with it
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: GomerPyle]
#1071881
09/10/14 02:19 AM
09/10/14 02:19 AM
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Joined: Apr 2007
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Over yonder
extreme heights hunter
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Over yonder
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Personally I won't shoot a doe if it has fawn with it Same here. And I sure as hell ain't cold hearted enough to kill a fawn/yearling. Yes I hear all the time they are the perfect size for a crock pot. That just ain't me.
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071884
09/10/14 02:23 AM
09/10/14 02:23 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 310
Mobile
Delta Dave
4 point
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4 point
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Posts: 310
Mobile
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Well I'm not shooting a fawn for 2 reasons, the biggest being it's illegal. The second is that they are self sufficient at a much younger age than most give them credit for. If you let it walk, it has a pretty decent chance of survival. You shoot it and that chance drops to zero. Pulled this from an article At what age can a fawn live on its own? If an archer harvests a doe, and the doe is with a fawn, what are the chances of the fawn living on its own? Would another doe take it under its wing, ever?
Fawns are functionally weaned by the time they are 10 weeks old. They will still nurse if allowed up until they are 5 or 6 months old. However, this is not necessary for their survival. After 10 weeks of age, fawns are perfectly capable of obtaining food on their own by grazing and browsing. Deer do learn feeding behavior so the longer a doe and fawn are together, the more the fawn learns. By the time archery season rolls around, fawns are self sufficient and they remain with their mother for purely social reasons. Orphaned fawns are rarely adopted but there is no need of this in the fall anyway.
Last edited by Delta Dave; 09/10/14 02:23 AM.
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071892
09/10/14 02:30 AM
09/10/14 02:30 AM
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Posts: 16,156
Alabaster
Bowhunter84
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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If the fawn is big enough to survive on its own ill shoot it. If not then it gets a pass.
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once"
BC
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071909
09/10/14 02:47 AM
09/10/14 02:47 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,628
Clanton
Turkey_neck
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Clanton
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You don't have to worry this year since we are cut back to one antler less deer a day.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071919
09/10/14 02:57 AM
09/10/14 02:57 AM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 471
Baldwin, Alabama
jmack66
4 point
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Baldwin, Alabama
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I do not shoot doe's that have a fawn or even look like they do. I try to take the older fat doe's or a younger maiden doe that has never had a fawn. I don't believe that fawn would ever make it if it is to small without its mother.
Live everyday like its your last
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1071925
09/10/14 03:03 AM
09/10/14 03:03 AM
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Clanton
Turkey_neck
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Booner
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Clanton
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I won't shoot a doe if the fawn has spots but if the spots are gone momma is in trouble.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: Turkey_neck]
#1071944
09/10/14 03:19 AM
09/10/14 03:19 AM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 20,139
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Northport, AL
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I won't shoot a doe if the fawn has spots but if the spots are gone momma is in trouble. Well, I may not be technically correct, but to me a "fawn" is a spotted deer. Once the spots are gone, I no longer consider it a "fawn", so yeah, I'm with you. If I have a group of does and I'm gonna shoot one, I always pic the biggest by default.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: Turkey_neck]
#1071949
09/10/14 03:23 AM
09/10/14 03:23 AM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Mobile Alabama
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You don't have to worry this year since we are cut back to one antler less deer a day. Are you kidding me? Did this BS pass through?
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: TChunter]
#1071957
09/10/14 03:27 AM
09/10/14 03:27 AM
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Posts: 28,992
Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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Fosters, Alabama, USA
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You don't have to worry this year since we are cut back to one antler less deer a day. Are you kidding me? Did this BS pass through? Yep. Josh won't have to worry though, still no limit on dogs. 
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: Shaw]
#1071962
09/10/14 03:30 AM
09/10/14 03:30 AM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Booner
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Mobile Alabama
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You don't have to worry this year since we are cut back to one antler less deer a day. Are you kidding me? Did this BS pass through? Yep. Josh won't have to worry though, still no limit on dogs. Not where i hunt it didnt. 
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: Delta Dave]
#1071967
09/10/14 03:36 AM
09/10/14 03:36 AM
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Posts: 3,524
TX
hunting13
10 point
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TX
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Well I'm not shooting a fawn for 2 reasons, the biggest being it's illegal. The second is that they are self sufficient at a much younger age than most give them credit for. If you let it walk, it has a pretty decent chance of survival. You shoot it and that chance drops to zero. Pulled this from an article At what age can a fawn live on its own? If an archer harvests a doe, and the doe is with a fawn, what are the chances of the fawn living on its own? Would another doe take it under its wing, ever?
Fawns are functionally weaned by the time they are 10 weeks old. They will still nurse if allowed up until they are 5 or 6 months old. However, this is not necessary for their survival. After 10 weeks of age, fawns are perfectly capable of obtaining food on their own by grazing and browsing. Deer do learn feeding behavior so the longer a doe and fawn are together, the more the fawn learns. By the time archery season rolls around, fawns are self sufficient and they remain with their mother for purely social reasons. Orphaned fawns are rarely adopted but there is no need of this in the fall anyway. I agree they are much more capable then people think. I personally don't shoot a doe with a fawn
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: .308]
#1072080
09/10/14 05:49 AM
09/10/14 05:49 AM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,644
Pine Hill, Al
sluggun
8 point
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Pine Hill, Al
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Our club has a 5 deer limit that includes what you, your dependants or your guests kill. I don't shoot any does. I ain't wasting one of my deer on a stinking doe.
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Re: Fawns & Does
[Re: sluggun]
#1072120
09/10/14 06:10 AM
09/10/14 06:10 AM
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Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Mobile Alabama
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Our club has a 5 deer limit that includes what you, your dependants or your guests kill. I don't shoot any does. I ain't wasting one of my deer on a stinking doe. Screw that, I need 5 just for meat to get us through the year.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Fawns & Does
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#1072129
09/10/14 06:16 AM
09/10/14 06:16 AM
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Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Mobile Alabama
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When fawns loose their spots they are weaned , eating what any other older deer eats, mamma is fair game. The fawn will be fine. I guess that's why it's against the law to shoot a spotted fawn.  You and your common sense and reasoning have no place here.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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