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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1007837
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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1008044
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Originally Posted By: Zzzfog
Seems pretty simple to me. Daylight hours only. That can vary a lot from place to place not only with regards to where you're hunting---fields/woods--- but also how much cloud cover there is. Like Troy said the 30mins before sunrise/after sunset is for migratory birds including DOVES, not deer.


When "daylight hours" end it's still very bright. Next time you're in a field in December at 4:40PM, I challenge you to leave. That's when I kill 95% of my deer, after "daylight" according to weather.com is over.

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: PRB] #1008081
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When deer are around me, I either call a friend to drive in and pick me up or Let my gun to the ground, drop the rope and weight.


What's the weight for?! grin
Woops. That should have been= wait. grin My rifle is only 11 lbs. Thats with a 5x22x56 Nightforce! So not really that bad to carry! I once carried a 18 lbs, 284 shehane match rifle to a shooting house to shoot a deer! thumbup

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: BhamFred] #1008092
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred


the sunrise/sunset tables are for waterfowl hunters, not deer hunters. There is no "set" time for start/stop. One part says "daylight, another says sunset.


Thanks for clearing that up ... I wasn't sure myself




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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Remington270] #1008260
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: Zzzfog
Seems pretty simple to me. Daylight hours only. That can vary a lot from place to place not only with regards to where you're hunting---fields/woods--- but also how much cloud cover there is. Like Troy said the 30mins before sunrise/after sunset is for migratory birds including DOVES, not deer.


When "daylight hours" end it's still very bright. Next time you're in a field in December at 4:40PM, I challenge you to leave. That's when I kill 95% of my deer, after "daylight" according to weather.com is over.


I don't go by weather.com as to when daylight ends. I use common sense and that tells me that daylight hasn't ended at 4:40 pm in December only that the sunset has occurred. Just like I don't wait until sunrise to shoot either. Good grief!


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1008264
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Originally Posted By: Zzzfog

Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: Zzzfog
Seems pretty simple to me. Daylight hours only. That can vary a lot from place to place not only with regards to where you're hunting---fields/woods--- but also how much cloud cover there is. Like Troy said the 30mins before sunrise/after sunset is for migratory birds including DOVES, not deer.


When "daylight hours" end it's still very bright. Next time you're in a field in December at 4:40PM, I challenge you to leave. That's when I kill 95% of my deer, after "daylight" according to weather.com is over.


I don't go by weather.com as to when daylight ends. I use common sense and that tells me that daylight hasn't ended at 4:40 pm in December only that the sunset has occurred. Just like I don't wait until sunrise to shoot either. Good grief!


This is from the Code of Alabama, although apparently not enforced:

Section 9-11-235

It shall be unlawful, except as to trapping as otherwise provided by law, for a person to take, capture, or kill, or attempt to take, capture, or kill any bird or animal protected by the laws of this state between sunset and daylight of the following day, except that the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may by a duly promulgated regulation, allow the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums between sunset and daylight in any county or counties within the state.


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1008777
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I used to get worked up about the fact that they wouldn't just say 1/2 hour before and after sun rise/set. Then I started thinking, you know maybe it's best it's left the way it is, and it's left vague for a reason. What if you field is sloped such that it's oriented south, and atmospheric conditions allow light such that you can shoot at 35 minutes after sunset and at 33 minutes the buck of a lifetime walks out and you get a ticket? Sounds like the current state of affairs allows for sensible behavior without getting a ticket.

Of course if dumbazzes start shooting people, theyll be forced to lock er down and enforce accordingly.

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: M48scout] #1008931
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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: BhamFred] #1008933
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
ya'll just make up this stuff , don't ya'll?????



Exactly. I think I've umpired some of their damn baseball games too. They "heard" a rule when they were a kid and assume it's true.


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1009054
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Usually if you feel its questionable you shouldn't be shooting.


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1009062
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I, nor many others, paid big money for binoculars and scopes to get down and go home at 4:40 pm. smile

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Claims Rep.] #1009088
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Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Every state that touches Alabama plus LA, ARK, KY, and SC all state one half hour before sunrise / one half hour after sunset. Leave it to Alabama to be basakwards once again.


Personally, I like Alabama's stance on it a heckuva lot better than the states that define legal shooting hours as 30 minutes before/after sunrise/sunset. If folks don't want to stay longer, there's no one forcing them to.

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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1009105
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If i was going to go home at 4:40, i wouldn't hunt that afternoon. Kill 90% of my afternoon deer after 4:30, probably closer to 5pm.

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: hunterbuck] #1009225
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Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Every state that touches Alabama plus LA, ARK, KY, and SC all state one half hour before sunrise / one half hour after sunset. Leave it to Alabama to be basakwards once again.


Personally, I like Alabama's stance on it a heckuva lot better than the states that define legal shooting hours as 30 minutes before/after sunrise/sunset. If folks don't want to stay longer, there's no one forcing them to.

I like my German Hubble scopes.


I don't like the DA on the ajoining property shooting at 5:45 PM when it's pitch black.



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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1009868
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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1010167
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The rules were changed a few years back, there used to be set times for deer hunting, now it days daylight hours only. I asked a GW about this years back and he said it was up to him. If he felt you could see good enough to identify your target then he sees no problem. They are aware of scope technology today and know that you can sit a few minutes longer which can mean the difference. I'm sure the new technology had a lot to do with the rule changes.

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: YAPER] #1010245
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Originally Posted By: YAPER
The rules were changed a few years back, there used to be set times for deer hunting, now it days daylight hours only. I asked a GW about this years back and he said it was up to him. If he felt you could see good enough to identify your target then he sees no problem. They are aware of scope technology today and know that you can sit a few minutes longer which can mean the difference. I'm sure the new technology had a lot to do with the rule changes.


NEVER been any set times for deer hunting..ever. and no changes in the rules over the last 30 years either. Bad info....


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: BhamFred] #1010252
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I think we have been over the fact that its officers discreation. BhamFred, what would be the charges and fines if someone shot a deer, that in the GW opinion was to late? Would it be a charge of hunting after hours? If so would it be a fine like spotlighting? How much of a fine?

Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1010456
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fine would depend on charge...could be hunting at night, could be restricted hours. Couple thousand to a couple of hundred.


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Re: Legal shooting hours [Re: Zzzfog] #1010515
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Originally Posted By: Zzzfog
Just wanting to see what are most people's interpretation of legal shooting hours for deer in AL? The regulations say "daylight hours only". Reading through some of the other threads it seems people have varying interpretations. Anyone have any thoughts?


The regulation is in fact as specific as "daylight hours." My interpretation is everyone should use common sense. If you question whether it's "daylight" or not then you should not shoot. If you cannot clearly identify your target then it's not "daylight."

Bottom line is that if you are shooting at a time when you know you should not be then you could get a ticket. A warden is not going to write you a ticket because it's so many minutes before or after a certain time found on a data table. They will right you a ticket because you are not using good judgement and could possibly kill somebody.


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