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Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
#1007264
07/07/14 09:34 AM
07/07/14 09:34 AM
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There is roughly 1403 acres acres for lease on the Shelby/Bibb Cty line West of Montevallo. I know nothing of this land other than is avaiable for lease and it looks pretty good on the aerial. I do know it's within 3 miles of some privite land that has limited to no hunting and it has some really big deer. I don't think this is an area that has a lot of deer but it does grow some studs. I am interested in forming a club that the guys want to hunt and manage for big mature deer.
I'm thinking 10 total members and very limited guest. There would be 7 (deer/small game) memberships avaiable at $1200 each and 3 full (All Game) memberships at $1500 each. That will leave around $4000 budget to plant food plots.
I am also open to going with less members and paying more if that interest anyone as well.
If a club is formed it will be a trophy/mature deer that meet X requirements. This can be discussed if there is enough interest.
Shoot me a PM if interested.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/08/14 02:30 AM
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152 Views and no interest in this land? Give me some feed back on what you guys don't like or the concerns. I'm flexiable on some things and some I'm not.
I plan to go look at the property as soon as I can. I shoud have some more info once I look at it.
I know many of you guys know what's kind of deer are being killed off the Cahaba WMA. This could be a special place right here in our home state if managed right.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/08/14 02:59 AM
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If I hadn't already sunk. 1400 in my club I would be interested in a full membership.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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07/08/14 03:25 AM
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I can understand that.
Guys I don't half way do anything when it comes to the hunting property I lease. I can assure it will be a well ran club with no drama or rules not being followed! I also have all the equipment needed to plant quality food plots. I think a 4K budget would cover the cost of some good food being planted.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/08/14 04:18 AM
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Dang yall..theres a great chance to have an aldeer trophy club. help old Mike out! All the people I see looking youd think this would be a great opportunity! Get in on the ground floor. Help start the club and watch as the management works out.
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/08/14 07:20 AM
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Distance is my major factor...if I have to drive further than 45 minutes I will talk myself out of going hunting. If I have to drive 2.5 hours I might as well drive 4 to Kentucky or 5 to Mississippi. Mike if you start working on some property in paint rock valley in Jackson county or Lincoln county, TN, you will have to change phones from all the calls you will get.
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/08/14 07:51 AM
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Casey I hear that....lol. I don't need this land but I've always wanted to try to manage a thousand or so acres around the Cahaba WMA. There are some beast coming out of that place so the genetics are there. This is the first tract I've found for lease near the place. I know its a chance in the dark but I'd like to give it a try if I could get some of these quality tight wads to come off some money If I didn't have land in 3 states already I'd lease it by myself then share all the pics of my trophy room on here in a few years. I'd need a new phone number then for sure
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Parker243]
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07/08/14 03:22 PM
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I am extremely interested in this. I just lost my family land private lease in Macon county that we had for nearly 25 years. I'm looking for a place that is managed strictly, because that's how I was raised to hunt. The location is great, because I live In Vestavia. Having a place to deer and turkey hunt that close to home would be ideal. I'll know more Friday as I am trying to make arrangements to go look at the place.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/09/14 01:53 PM
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I am extremely interested in this. I just lost my family land private lease in Macon county that we had for nearly 25 years. I'm looking for a place that is managed strictly, because that's how I was raised to hunt. The location is great, because I live In Vestavia. Having a place to deer and turkey hunt that close to home would be ideal. I'll know more Friday as I am trying to make arrangements to go look at the place. I may be interested, there are some stud genetics in the area. We had 600 acres not far from there as the crow flies, that produced a 164. I'll have to think on it a bit, but will also mention it to my dad. He said he may be looking for something close by, since he will be too busy to do his normal 5 weeks in Missouri this year.
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: foldemup]
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07/11/14 04:09 AM
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Distance is my major factor...if I have to drive further than 45 minutes I will talk myself out of going hunting. If I have to drive 2.5 hours I might as well drive 4 to Kentucky or 5 to Mississippi. Mike if you start working on some property in paint rock valley in Jackson county or Lincoln county, TN, you will have to change phones from all the calls you will get. x2
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/11/14 03:35 PM
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I'm interested in the deer and small game. What's the chance you're going to do it? Pm me your contact info. I live in Centreville so that's great for me! Also will it cover school age kids?
“SLOW IS SMOOTH, SMOOTH IS FAST”
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/12/14 04:06 PM
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Man I would love to jump on board with ya and I too have always wanted to start a club up with growing big deer the first priority, no matter how much it costs in countless bags of protein and selective shooting, but like other folks have mentioned, the distance from my places in navarre beach and lowndes county is an issue. If there was a comfortable camp house on site, I would have been the first to reply.. Good luck and hope it works out for ya and you get the right kind of partners
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/13/14 03:15 PM
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there ya go Mike. Looks like your getting some interest! Propably enough members to do it if you check it out and they commit. Good luck!
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Atoler]
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07/14/14 11:18 AM
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Did you get to look at the place on Friday? Pm me your phone number. I'm interested if it was strict big buck management. Should have a December rut in that area as well. The land manager has not returned my phone call. I'm trying to set up an appointment to look at the property. To everyone that has PM'd me and posted on here with interest this deal is a slim possibility to happen. The property is under a bid system and once I bid on the place and win I'm on the hook for over 9K. It will be hard for me to do that even though I have the money. My wife is laid back as they come but I'd be in the dog house if I could not recover that amount of money in a timely manner. My issue is I know everyone that joins would like to see the property before paying. I would have it no other way!! I am dealing with a short time frame here and the land manager isn't being very helpful either. I'm still working it as I hope it doesn't lease before the dead line and I will have more time.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/15/14 04:10 AM
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I am dealing with a short time frame here and the land manager isn't being very helpful either. Brother, you better get used to that. He was HORRIBLE to lease from. Wouldn't return calls/emails. No help at all. I don't normally bash people publicly, but this guy was the worst.
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/15/14 04:14 AM
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You are the second person that has told me this!
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Johnal3]
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07/17/14 03:00 PM
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If this is Westervelt property, make me the 3rd to tell you, I would never deal with "BB" again personally. All he shows interest in is making sure your check shows up on time. The rest doesn't matter unless it means $ for them, which I understand to a point, but I feel like their customer service sucks majorly. John he still hasn't called me back since I sent him an email and left him a VM. I'm done with this cat. I'm not going to beg anyone in this area to lease land.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/17/14 04:16 PM
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If this is Westervelt property, make me the 3rd to tell you, I would never deal with "BB" again personally. All he shows interest in is making sure your check shows up on time. The rest doesn't matter unless it means $ for them, which I understand to a point, but I feel like their customer service sucks majorly. John he still hasn't called me back since I sent him an email and left him a VM. I'm done with this cat. I'm not going to beg anyone in this area to lease land. He doesn't control any land that's good enough for me to deal with him. Although, I can't believe he won't contact you about leasing property. There must be someone that's put money in their hands for it already. Normally, it starts after money has exchanged hands. Then he couldn't care less if he talks to you again until next May. He just has a real crappy way of dealing with people. Even after you get in touch with him.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/17/14 04:50 PM
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I've hunted that westervelt property that's down 73 a few times. Saw deer each time I hunted and passed a nice buck. First deer I saw that morning and was hunting as a guest. Didn't want to upset the members. . I do know they killed several decent bucks each year. Used to be 1800 acres and have a chunk of hardwoods in the back. Looks like they have cut that out of the tract. Even with that said, it might be worth taking a look at. Squeaky, I've also walked that tract your looking at with another member here. It was a deer desert in my opinion. I know there are some good genetics through there but it wasn't something I was willing to put money into at the time. Things might have changed since then, as that was 4-5 years ago. The two tracts can't be more than 5 miles apart, if that. We ended up leasing another tract from them and that's when the breakdown in communication began.
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Johnal3]
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07/21/14 06:19 PM
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If this is Westervelt property, make me the 3rd to tell you, I would never deal with "BB" again personally. All he shows interest in is making sure your check shows up on time. The rest doesn't matter unless it means $ for them, which I understand to a point, but I feel like their customer service sucks majorly. Are you talking about Bill Baker?
Last edited by desertdog; 07/21/14 06:19 PM.
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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07/22/14 02:49 AM
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If you decide to do this, let me know. I know a cpl folksthat might be interested up that way.
So weird.
99% of the world wipes their ass with it and the barn calls it tradition. Dustin
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: REEFD]
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07/22/14 03:00 AM
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If you decide to do this, let me know. I know a cpl folksthat might be interested up that way. Ron I'm not going to lease this property. The land manager has never returned my phone call to show me the property.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Johnal3]
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07/22/14 04:26 AM
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Yup. I hate to down a guy on the internet, but want my experience (along with several others I know) to be known before they pay top dollar for something he runs. His communication, or lack thereof, and arrogance when you do get in touch with him are uncalled for. That's all I will say about it. A few years ago me and some friends I worked with were looking for a lease. I contacted Bill and he told me we couldn't afford anything he had available. I told him we all had our money together we just needed a lease and he said (people will tell you anything until the money is due). What's bad we ended up leasing some land a couple weeks later that was more than the Westerfelt land he had.
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Remington270]
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07/22/14 07:06 AM
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Y'all should talk with some higher-ups in Westervelt. I know several of them, some of which hunt, and they'd be interested to know about this Bill fellow. They already know him and they don't care.
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: Squeaky]
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If you decide to do this, let me know. I know a cpl folksthat might be interested up that way. Ron I'm not going to lease this property. The land manager has never returned my phone call to show me the property. I know where theres 6000 acres for sale down our way, you ought to just buy it and we'll be neighbors.
So weird.
99% of the world wipes their ass with it and the barn calls it tradition. Dustin
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Re: Gauging Interest in forming Shelby/Bibb Cty Club
[Re: desertdog]
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Yup. I hate to down a guy on the internet, but want my experience (along with several others I know) to be known before they pay top dollar for something he runs. His communication, or lack thereof, and arrogance when you do get in touch with him are uncalled for. That's all I will say about it. A few years ago me and some friends I worked with were looking for a lease. I contacted Bill and he told me we couldn't afford anything he had available. I told him we all had our money together we just needed a lease and he said (people will tell you anything until the money is due). What's bad we ended up leasing some land a couple weeks later that was more than the Westerfelt land he had. Sounds about right. Normally he was interested in money for Westervelt though. He was over some property in Greene co. a couple years ago that we paid $20+ an acre on. They had us shoot 40 does a year off of 2000 acres. By the 3 and 4th year you couldn't find a deer besides 2 yr. old bucks, and when the rut got going you did good to see anything. Westervelt ended up taking the property, leasing it to 3 high rollers from Florida. 3 guys from Westervelt were allowed to hunt it also. A couple years ago I spoke with one of their buddies and they had killed 3 or 4 does with their bows and some whopper bucks off of it. I say all that to say, they'll never get another dime from me. Bill or Westervelt.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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