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switching from gas to electric? #1255710
02/06/15 04:44 PM
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This makes month #2 to have a 400.00 gas&utilities bill, had a guy come out today and said he did find a small gas leak that was before the meter, I smelled the mercaptain yesterday so I knew something was up. Gas company wouldn't help since it was before the meter.......my question, I have gas heat abd gas hot water heater, that's it.. would I benefit from going all electric? I'm thinking about going with a heat pump and electric hot water heater.. I can't keep paying these gas bills!

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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255714
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Don't ever get a heat pump. I had one before moving in a house with gas. I never want another heat pump.


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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: BowtechDan] #1255718
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Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
Don't ever get a heat pump. I had one before moving in a house with gas. I never want another heat pump.


Why?

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255719
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They don't put out heat! grin


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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: BowtechDan] #1255735
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I gotta Train Heat Pump and it heats my upstairs and basement fine. We run it at 72 year round. I switched from Propane (no gas out here in Country), and my bill is half of what it was with LP Gas. We use the LP Gas only for fireplace and that's it. I have owned this unit for 12 years without any problems so far.

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255760
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Heat pumps are great until it gets below freezing, then they are no longer efficient and the heat strips kick in.

If i could pick, I'd have an on demand gas water heater and a heat pump. That would be the best combo, IMO.


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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255762
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo


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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255768
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Get the heatpump and a gas tankless water heater. FYI I have a heat pump and electric water heater 2000 sq ft. house. bill is around $125-140 in the winter

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255782
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Water heater insulated with a fiberglass blanket? Is the house well insulated? And is the gas heat fairly modern? If yes to all of these, I cant help You.

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255791
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No idea how gas would have been but I'm in 1800sq ft with a full basement on all electric and my highest bill to date was last month and that was $181. Budget billing view says that I average 143/month. I don't like a hot house though and keep it at 68/winter, 73 summer

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: metalmuncher] #1255794
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House was built in 65, 2k square feet, outdated heater, poor insulation, cold natured wife.. Its a lose lose situation.. and yes hot water heater is 2 years old and insulated

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Your rates are probably about the same as mine here. I have gas water heater only and my bill averages around 40$ per month. Was about 200$ in the winter back when I had gas heat as well. Neither w/heater or furnace were high efficiency models. It's about the same for me, electric bill now averages out to offset lack of gas bill. Your bill does seem high.

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1255815
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It's not the gas that's costing you $$$$,it's the old house with poor insulation,you will not see any difference by going electric without properly insulating the house

Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: Gobblebox1] #1255820
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Originally Posted By: Gobblebox1
It's not the gas that's costing you $$$$,it's the old house with poor insulation,you will not see any difference by going electric without properly insulating the house


Good point, I just can't get ahead it seems

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A good start would be to blow in a good thick blanket of insulation in the attic. Walls are a little harder though, unless You have vinyl siding. It's not that expensive. You could do it Yourself. Lowes and Home Cheapo will loan You the blower if You buy their insulation. It would probably pay for itself in a couple or three years.

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Originally Posted By: steelman
Originally Posted By: Gobblebox1
It's not the gas that's costing you $$$$,it's the old house with poor insulation,you will not see any difference by going electric without properly insulating the house


Good point, I just can't get ahead it seems
When I bought our farm house the first thing we did on upgrades was changing out the old wood windows to energy efficient windows, couple doors, and had a buddy blow my attic again. Last thing we did was upgrade to the Train Heat Pump.

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Definitely see where you can insulate better or replace windows if needed. That'd be my first step.
If and when you do replace your HVAC unit. Replace it with a dual fuel system. It is a heat pump with gas back up heat. Best of both worlds. You have the efficiency of a heat pump down to around 35* with out drying out the air like the gas heat will do. You can then set a lock out point if an outdoor sensor is installed and lock out the heat pump and only run gas heat below 35* or what ever set point you decide on. It also works as a typical heat pump, when it goes into defrost instead of bringing on expensive resistance heat, it'll bring on the gas heat during defrost mode. Of course, this unit is slightly more expensive. However, you would make back the difference fairly quick. Also the efficiency of the new system would outright save you more than that older system your running. Heck may save you enough per month to cover the monthly payment if you financed it or had a mo pmt on it.

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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: metalmuncher] #1255885
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Originally Posted By: metalmuncher
A good start would be to blow in a good thick blanket of insulation in the attic. Walls are a little harder though, unless You have vinyl siding. It's not that expensive. You could do it Yourself. Lowes and Home Cheapo will loan You the blower if You buy their insulation. It would probably pay for itself in a couple or three years.


^^^^^ this


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Re: switching from gas to electric? [Re: ] #1256042
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I have 4000 square foot and we are all electric. Bill runs roughly $300/month

I have a buddy with roughly the same size house with gas and electric and his bill was roughly $300/month.

In my area the price is roughly the same with electric being a little cheaper.

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I live in a house that was built in the early 1900's.. We have two gas heaters on the wall and some electric style amish heaters.. We stay just fine, go through about 250 gallon of propane a year. BUT, my wife and kids wears clothes in the house, instead of shorts and t shirts.. smile makes a big difference. Like right now, it is 28 outside and 68 inside.. thats with everything on low, and we are fine.. Clothes are cheaper than anything


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